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On 07/08/2018 02:59 PM, Zac Medico wrote: |
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> On 07/08/2018 02:50 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: |
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>> On July 8, 2018 5:38:48 PM EDT, Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o> wrote: |
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>> On 07/08/2018 02:18 PM, Michał Górny wrote: |
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>> W dniu nie, 08.07.2018 o godzinie 14∶11 -0700, użytkownik Zac Medico |
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>> On 07/08/2018 01:18 PM, Zac Medico wrote: |
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>> On 07/08/2018 01:08 PM, Michał Górny wrote: |
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>> W dniu nie, 08.07.2018 o godzinie 11∶57 -0700, |
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>> użytkownik Zac Medico |
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>> napisał: |
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>> On 07/08/2018 11:42 AM, Michał Górny wrote: |
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>> W dniu nie, 08.07.2018 o godzinie 11∶04 |
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>> -0700, użytkownik Zac Medico |
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>> napisał: |
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>> On 07/08/2018 06:56 AM, Michał Górny wrote: |
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>> W dniu nie, 08.07.2018 o godzinie |
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>> 15∶02 +0200, użytkownik Kristian |
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>> Fiskerstrand napisał: |
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>> On 07/08/2018 08:53 AM, Michał |
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>> Górny wrote: |
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>> Is safe git syncing |
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>> implemented already? If not, |
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>> maybe finish it first and |
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>> cover both with a single |
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>> news item. Git is going to |
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>> be more efficient here, so |
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>> people may want to learn |
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>> they have an alternative. |
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>> Why complicate things, and |
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>> increase wait for something that |
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>> benefits |
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>> most users, just to give |
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>> alternatives to a few using |
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>> non-default sync |
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>> mechanism. Securing git |
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>> distribution is a whole |
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>> different ballpark. |
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>> Let me rephrase. Let's say I'm using |
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>> rsync. This new feature is |
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>> something positive but it breaks my |
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>> use case (for one of the listed |
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>> reasons -- overlayfs, inode use, |
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>> small fs cache). After reading this |
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>> news item, I learn that my only |
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>> option is to disable the new feature. |
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>> Now, I would appreciate being told |
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>> that there's an alternate sync method |
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>> that handles secure updates without |
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>> having all those drawbacks. |
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>> The thing is, the normal git tree |
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>> doesn't even provide pre-generated |
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>> metadata, and I see then gentoo-mirror |
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>> repo that provides metadata does |
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>> not have commits signed with an release key: |
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>> https://github.com/gentoo-mirror/gentoo/commits/stable |
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>> So I'm really not comfortable |
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>> recommending git to anyone at this point. |
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>> Wrong twice. |
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>> Firstly, the canonical URL is: |
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>> https://anongit.gentoo.org/git/repo/sync/gentoo.git |
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>> (https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/sync/gentoo.git) |
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>> Secondly, the merge commits (i.e. top |
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>> commits that are verified |
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>> by Portage) are signed by dedicated key that |
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>> is part of the infra key |
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>> set. In other words, it works out of the box. |
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>> Is there any documentation that shows users how |
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>> to migrate to git, and |
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>> what the pros and cons might be? Maybe its |
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>> worthy of its own news item. |
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>> Maybe. I don't really know, and don't think it's a |
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>> good idea to show 30 |
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>> news item of things users might like on every new |
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>> Gentoo install. |
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>> Well if instructions for setting up git sync and |
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>> associated pros/cons |
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>> are not documented anywhere then I won't advise anyone |
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>> to use it. |
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>> I've attempted to configure it for myself, and this is what |
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>> it does: |
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>> * Using keys from /usr/share/openpgp-keys/gentoo-release.asc |
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>> * Refreshing keys from keyserver ... |
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>> [ ok ] |
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>> * No valid signature found: unable to verify signature |
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>> (missing key?) |
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>> Please report a bug and attach your configuration along with keyring |
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>> version. |
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>> It works after upgrading to openpgp-keys-gentoo-release-20180706 from |
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>> openpgp-keys-gentoo-release-20180323. |
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>> Does Portage not call attention to critical updates? |
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> No, but that might be a nice feature. We'd have to introduce some kind |
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> of standard mechanism via PMS or a GLEP. |
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Actually GLEP 42 news items can be used for this, with a header like: |
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Display-If-Installed: <app-crypt/openpgp-keys-gentoo-release-20180706 |
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Thanks, |
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Zac |
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