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From: Thomas Deutschmann <whissi@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] acct-user.eclass: don't modify existing user by default
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 18:10:25
Message-Id: 2c5d738a-04f7-94a7-d2ed-1983743dcef6@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] acct-user.eclass: don't modify existing user by default by Mike Gilbert
1 On 2021-01-08 18:06, Mike Gilbert wrote:
2 > I disagree with your premise: I argue that the eclass is not "broken",
3 > and the code works as designed. You just don't like aspects of its
4 > design.
5
6 Several people, not just me... *users*, other devs like robbat2 and
7 antarus, all with experience in maintaining multiple systems not just as
8 a hobby, have expressed that the current design has a flaw.
9
10 I got feedback from other devs representing a large group in Gentoo and
11 they all agree on the problem. They haven't spoken up yet because they
12 don't care because the way how they use Gentoo is stateless.
13
14 So why the hell is it acceptable for a small group (you and mgorny,
15 Michael told me already last year that he will be fine with an opt-in
16 change and I assume his opinion hasn't changed) to cause problems for
17 another group just because you don't want to acknowledge the problem?
18
19 Even soap, not sure if he has spoken for himself or as QA lead, has
20 acknowledged in this thread that we need a mechanism to disable this
21 behavior.
22
23 Is it really not possible to solve this technical problem? Do we have to
24 escalate and need a vote or something to replace entire GLEP 81 with
25 something new just because a group believes there is no flaw and
26 everyone else having problems are doing things wrong so this group is
27 rejecting any attempts to address the problem?
28
29
30 --
31 Regards,
32 Thomas Deutschmann / Gentoo Linux Developer
33 fpr: C4DD 695F A713 8F24 2AA1 5638 5849 7EE5 1D5D 74A5

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