Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 updated

[Peter Alfredsen]

On Sun, 17 May 2009 22:54:38 +0530
Nirbheek Chauhan <nirbheek@g.o> wrote:

> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Peter Alfredsen
> <loki_val@g.o> wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 May 2009 17:56:06 +0200
> > Piotr Jaroszyński <peper@g.o> wrote:
> >
> >> I know gentoo has other problems too, but it's the new and
> >> innovative stuff that makes working on Gentoo fun.
> >
> > YES !
> >
>
> I sincerely hope that was sarcasm.

I don't want us to get to a place where every single new feature has to
be delayed by the objection "We've got basic bugs we need to fix
first." That's just unreasonable and a straw man. I get my kicks from
improving things, not from fixing broken things. You may object and say
they're one and the same, and you would not be wrong, but the emphasis
*is* different.

People seem to not see that in the case of GLEP 55 and some call for a
moratorium on new features till we've fixed the bugs that already
exist. Not gonna happen. The human spirit is what's driving Gentoo,
giving it life. Our aspirations to improve the world around us lives
and breathes with every ebuild we churn out. World domination is our
goal and we won't get there by letting the maintainer-needed queue bog
us down.

I think that it's obvious to everybody that the problem GLEP 55 is
solving is real. To me, .ebuild-$eapi/.eapi-$eapi.eb looks like the best
solution, all things considered. From a purely unixy point-of-view, I
see the cleanliness of a shebang EAPI definition, and that would be my
second choice, but we need a solution we can use now. Not a year from
now. Time really does matter.

My dislike for the GLEP 55 process is my main reason for supporting
GLEP 55 as-is. If we can skip just one more 50-mail thread because of
GLEP55, it will be worth the extra work of typing -$eapi every now and
then. Because seriously, if ever there was a mailing list topic whose
only effect has been to act like a succubus, GLEP 55 is it.

( In other words: No sarcasm intended )

/loki_val