Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Baselayout-2 progress?
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:50:20
Message-Id: pan.2008.03.01.09.49.57@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Baselayout-2 progress? by Doug Klima
1 Doug Klima <cardoe@g.o> posted 47C8E29A.2020003@g.o,
2 excerpted below, on Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:59:06 -0500:
3
4 >> Is direct upgrade from previous baselayout-2.0.0-rcX going to be
5 >> supported? I was running that for some time and just now added and
6 >> upgraded to the via layman version. There's a blocker, of course, as
7 >> openrc is now providing most of the files that baselayout did.
8 >
9 > You just answered your own question. If another package now provides
10 > files that an existing package provides, they must be blockers.
11
12 Thus the "of course"...
13
14 > Considering baselayout-2.0.0_rcX was a masked version and never
15 > recommended, it's also not in the direct upgrade path. The proper
16 > upgrade is what you've detailed out below. Such are the risks when you
17 > unmask a package and install it on your machine.
18
19 Which is why I'm not particularly complaining, just asking.
20
21 Practically speaking, while it's not required by any means, some devs
22 choose to acknowledge the symbiotic relationship between pre-release
23 testers willing to take that risk and do the work to find and file bugs,
24 thus helping to make the general release far less buggy, and the devs who
25 depend on such testers for that function. The testers do a favor for the
26 devs with all that early testing and bug filing (sometimes with patches),
27 and many devs choose to return it by providing a working upgrade path
28 from the pre-releases to the general release. Among other things, it
29 makes for happier testers, who are then likely to be repeat testers, the
30 next time an upgrade comes along.
31
32 It's also worth mentioning that a call for testers went out, so it's not
33 as if those that answered it, particularly if the DID actively look for
34 and file bugs as they found them, were doing it entirely of their own
35 accord. Again, it's doing the developer a favor, so it's a nice gesture
36 if the developer chooses to return the favor by smoothing the upgrade
37 path. Not something he has to do, but something he /can/ do, to increase
38 the chances of folks who already know the process again taking him up on
39 the invitation, the next time he needs something tested. =8^)
40
41 So anyway, I thought it was worth asking about, in case it had slipped
42 his mind or he hadn't thought of it. No big deal either way, but it'd be
43 a nice gesture if it's not too difficult to setup.
44
45 --
46 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
47 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
48 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
49
50 --
51 gentoo-dev@l.g.o mailing list