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From: Andrew Muraco <tuxp3@×××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:10:05
Message-Id: 438E068F.7020804@leetworks.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86 by Wernfried Haas
1 Wernfried Haas wrote:
2
3 >On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 01:56:40PM -0500, Mark Loeser wrote:
4 >
5 >
6 >>Seems people read this to mean that I was going to write a doc, which I have
7 >>no intentions on doing.
8 >>
9 >>
10 >I don't think a whole doc is necessary, but instructions for a safe
11 >upgrade would be fine. A think a one-liner like
12 >emerge -u gcc && emerge -e system && emerge -e world && emerge -P gcc
13 >&& emerge whateverneedstobedoneafterwards should suffice as documentation.
14 >
15 >
16 >
17 >>I believe adding "It is recommended that you `emerge
18 >>-e system && emerge -e world` after merging gcc-3.4" to the einfo at the end
19 >>of the gcc-3.4.4 install should be good enough.
20 >>
21 >>
22 >Maybe people look closer if they upgrade gcc, but einfo still gets
23 >overlooked easily.
24 >
25 >
26 >
27 >>So, let me know if marking it stable in the next day or two is completely
28 >>stupid and I should wait to announce this via the GWN or something, or if its
29 >>an alright move and people aren't going to stab me for marking it stable.
30 >>
31 >>
32 >Assuming a clear upgrade path is provided i think it would be
33 >fine. We'll make some sticky thread on the forum mentioning that
34 >instructions, i bet it couldn't hurt to put them on the gentoo
35 >mainpage, as topic in #gentoo etc. I'm also pretty sure next GWN is
36 >likely to report about the update.
37 >Just because we haven't got emerge --news it doesn't mean we haven't
38 >got lots of ways to reach our users. Every user that gets to read them
39 >in time is a potential bug report less.
40 >
41 >cheers,
42 > Wernfried
43 >
44 >
45 Personally, I would set a date next week, so that way GWN and other
46 places can be prepare for this, a definate date for users to know that
47 it IS going to happen, and I personally think that a sticky on the forum
48 (i would even be willing to write a little something, but i'm no expert)
49 is a minimum. A full out doc with all the FAQ and important notes about
50 what needs to be recompiled (in my opinion) would be a much more through
51 upgrade path, ofcourse still include the einfo quick instructions. But I
52 think the masses of users will not be happy when they realize that
53 emerge -e world && emerge -e world means that they will be compiling for
54 the next day (or 2 or 3), so a way to block the upgrade from messing up
55 people that wish to keep 3.3.x as default would be a good idea.
56
57 just my $.02
58
59 Tux
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Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86 Mark Loeser <halcy0n@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86 Philip Webb <purslow@×××××××××.ca>