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On 06/12/19 20:10, Andreas Sturmlechner wrote: |
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> On Friday, 6 December 2019 20:47:31 CET Thomas Deutschmann wrote: |
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>> On 2019-12-06 17:44, Mike Gilbert wrote: |
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>>> 1. Keep the old version installed. |
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>>> 2. Emit a confusing error message to the user since the use-dependency |
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>>> on dev-python/example[python_targets_python2_7] cannot be resolved |
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>>> with the latest visible version. |
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>> I don't fully understand #2 to be honest but yes, you will be cut off |
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>> from latest version at some point. Same in PHP. |
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> Considering that above statement, I would expect a bit more humility than the |
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> following: |
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> |
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>> Maybe someday one of those responsible will admit that this step was not |
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>> a thoughtful and good decision and promise not to do it that way again |
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>> and I'll get over it. Who knows. :) |
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> Just so we're on the same page, a recent example of what some people |
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> suggesting to keep py27 ad nauseam are asking users to deal with: |
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> # emerge -uDpv @world |
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> These are the packages that would be merged, in order: |
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> Calculating dependencies... done! |
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> Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB |
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> WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency |
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> conflict: |
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> dev-python/sphinx:0 |
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> |
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> (dev-python/sphinx-2.0.1:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts |
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> with |
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> >=dev-python/ |
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> sphinx-1.5.3[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/sphinxcontrib-websupport-1.1.0:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/cython-0.29.4:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/flask-babelex-0.9.3:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/testtools-2.3.0:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/pytest-runner-4.2:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/flask-babel-0.11.2-r2:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> >=dev-python/ |
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> sphinx-1.3.1[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/recommonmark-0.5.0_pre20181012-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/testpath-0.3.1:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-)] required by |
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> (dev-python/backports-functools-lru-cache-1.4-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/Babel-2.6.0:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/greenlet-0.4.15:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_5(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required by (dev-python/flask-wtf-0.14.2- |
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> r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-)] required by (dev-python/ |
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> pexpect-4.2.1:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_5(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required by (dev-python/python- |
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> sqlparse-0.2.4:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/pyopenssl-19.0.0:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/pyasn1-0.4.2:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/flask-login-0.4.1:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/future-0.17.0:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> >=dev-python/ |
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> sphinx-1.3.1[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_5(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required by (dev-python/pyxattr-0.6.0- |
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> r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/more-itertools-4.2.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/utidylib-0.3-r2:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/traitlets-4.3.2:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> >=dev-python/ |
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> sphinx-0.6[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/wtforms-2.2.1:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/numpydoc-0.9.1:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/virtualenv-16.0.0:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/rst-linker-1.11:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/nbformat-4.4.0:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_5(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required by (dev-python/ |
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> cairocffi-0.8.0:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> >=dev-python/sphinx-1.3.1- |
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> r1[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/qtconsole-4.3.1:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/ipyparallel-6.0.2-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/jupyter_core-4.4.0:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/atomicwrites-1.1.5-r3:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/sphinxcontrib-github-alt-1.0:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/paramiko-2.4.2:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/pallets-sphinx-themes-1.1.2:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/ |
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> sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),- |
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> python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required |
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> by (dev-python/py-1.5.4:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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> |
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> dev-python/sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),- |
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> python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-)] required by |
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> (dev-python/futures-3.1.1:0/0::gentoo, installed) |
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You write like this is some unknown/undesirable failure mode of portage, |
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when, in fact, just like any change of PYTHON_TARGETS or |
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PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET throws portage into a complete frenzy of confusion |
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because of the tight knitting caused by the python eclasses. |
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Now, some proposals have been made to better tie-down of the latter |
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situation here on this same list .. but let's just get over the fact that |
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python interpreters and libraries are just going to be a bit messier for a |
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few years, and we'll have to be a bit more careful when specifying |
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dependencies whilst this transition period washes out. |
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I really don't understand from anyone's point of view, the level of |
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hysteria being whipped up over this. |
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