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From: "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] impending c++11 clusterfuck?
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 12:19:08
Message-Id: 565D902D.5000202@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] impending c++11 clusterfuck? by "Michał Górny"
1 On 12/1/15 6:25 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
2 >
3 > Dnia 30 listopada 2015 12:17:32 CET, "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@g.o> napisał(a):
4 >>
5 >> different direction: what about building with
6 >> rpath=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.9.3/ and then making sure that
7 >> portage respects that library file during any --depclean or
8 >> @preserved-rebuild? i'm not sure how we'd
9 >> inject|||LDFLAGS=-Wl,-rpath=... consistantly and sanely into all c++
10 >> builds.
11 >>
12 >> this would solve all problems i can see: 1) gcc-config reshuffles
13 >> /etc/ld.so.conf.d/05gcc-<tuple>.conf but rpath takes presidence, 2) the
14 >> correct library symbols are guaranteed to be there in both exe and lib.
15 >>
16 >> 3) it pro-actively guards against abi mismatches when switching gcc
17 >> even
18 >> for other languages like fortran, java, obj-c.|
19 > I'm afraid any of those problems are really affecting us here. GCC maintains backwards ABI compatibility in the library, so applications will continue to work as long as runtime libstdc++ isn't older than build time.
20 >
21 > Currently, we always force newest installed libstdc++ at runtime, and use the version matching GCC version at build time, so that works.
22 >
23 > So the best thing your solution could give us is loading the wrong version of libstdc++ when you link to a library built against older one.
24 Yeah there are two problems going on here and the libsigc++-2.6 is the
25 c++98 <=> 11 problem. So on that bug we're talking about selectively
26 adding -std=c++11 (or possibly gnu++11) to packages. This may get
27 messy. I'm wondering if it isn't possible to just globally add
28 CXXFLAGS+="-std=c++11". This should work because anything written with
29 c++98 will compile under c++11 (although not vice versa) although I
30 don't know how we'd migrate existing systems.
31
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33 Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] impending c++11 clusterfuck? "Gregory M. Turner" <gmt@×××××××.net>