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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 09/11] glep-0063: Make recommended expiration terms mandatory
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 11:39:14
Message-Id: 1530877138.869.32.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 09/11] glep-0063: Make recommended expiration terms mandatory by Ulrich Mueller
1 W dniu pią, 06.07.2018 o godzinie 13∶34 +0200, użytkownik Ulrich Mueller
2 napisał:
3 > > > > > > On Fri, 6 Jul 2018, Marc Schiffbauer wrote:
4 > > * Michał Górny schrieb am 06.07.18 um 11:33 Uhr:
5 > > > If you don't see it for 5 years, how can you be sure that it is
6 > > > even still there?
7 > > Are you serious? Who tells you that I do not check from time to
8 > > time?
9 > > I am sure there will always be some scenario which makes a key
10 > > unacessible in some way. I do not disagree with that. Its a matter
11 > > of propability.
12 > > And for the worst case there is a revoke-Certificate which can be
13 > > used.
14 >
15 > Note that the revocation certificate is still listed under
16 > recommendations only, so devs need not create one. Making this a
17 > requirement would be a real improvement, IMHO.
18
19 How are you going to enforce it? I didn't make it a requirement because
20 we simply can't verify it being met.
21
22 > Instead, the GLEP draft is focusing on short expiration times.
23 > It won't help much if your compromised key will expire within one
24 > year, but you cannot revoke it.
25
26 You're conflating two unrelated concepts. Expiration is not meant to
27 replace revocation, or in any way amend it. Expiration is meant to
28 cover the case of both the key and the revocation certificate being
29 destroyed or otherwise becoming inaccessible.
30
31 >
32 > Suggestions:
33 > - Change the minimum requirement for key expiry to at most 3 years
34 > (which is what in version 1 is recommended).
35 > - Recommend at most 15 months of key expiry, to be renewed at least
36 > 2 weeks before the expiry date.
37 > - Make creation of a revocation certificate (and storing it in a place
38 > separate from the key) mandatory.
39 >
40 > Ulrich
41
42 --
43 Best regards,
44 Michał Górny

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