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From: james <garftd@×××××××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2016 16:36:17
Message-Id: a6886f2e-7f44-ffe9-9bea-d2468fe1f3e1@verizon.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs by Consus
1 On 08/07/2016 09:09 AM, Consus wrote:
2 > On 08:24 Sun 07 Aug, james wrote:
3 >> On 08/07/2016 02:38 AM, Consus wrote:
4 >>> On 08:48 Sun 07 Aug, Michał Górny wrote:
5 >>>> Sure we do. In the meantime, nobody uses gentoo anymore because it
6 >>>> still can't deal with accepting contributions and in the meantime the
7 >>>> few last developers retired, and users long ago switched to the
8 >>>> comparatively recent distribution of Debian stable.
9 >>>
10 >>> Finally the voice of reason.
11 >>
12 >> Reasonable? Are you kidding?
13 >> <rolling on the floor with laughter, uncontrollably >
14 >>
15 >> In this day and age, quick installs are the mantra, either for VMs or
16 >> containers or workstations, particularly for application-specific-servers or
17 >> a variety of security apparatus. Although the 'handbook' is an excellent
18 >> reference guide and noob-filter, the simple fact of the matter is most (nix)
19 >> professionals consider the gentoo install system to be arcane and an
20 >> incredible 'cost barrier to entry'. THAT, the lack of a well thought out,
21 >> smooth, quick/easy install which is intentionally not available, because it
22 >> is seen as a satanic idea, is the 800 pound gorilla on why folks
23 >> passionately avoid gentoo.....
24 >
25 > Err... On that one I agree. How the hell does it change the fact that
26 > GitHub improved contributions?
27
28 Ok, so I should have prune the post to focus my response::
29
30 "In the meantime, nobody uses gentoo anymore because"
31
32 My response is not about github, the past or the future of the Version
33 Control, Contributions or such, espoused by github.
34
35 My responses are to why such a mature and wonderful distro, Gentoo
36 specifically, is suffering::"nobody uses gentoo anymore". And in fact I
37 mildly questioned if that is the case. I think we all agree that there
38 is some mistery as to why gentoo is not grower more attractive, to folks
39 not using gentoo, at a faster rate with greater uptake on a permanent
40 commitment to gentoo (if I may politely be so bold?).
41
42 Git hub is fine. Sure, I'd like to see the tree run on something
43 opensource, but, github is fine, for now. ymmv. The future, who knows.
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45
46 hth,
47 James