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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
To: Robert Cole <robert.cole@×××××××××××××.com>
Cc: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] creating ebuilds
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:29:12
Message-Id: 1073416804.24161.32.camel@localhost
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] creating ebuilds by Robert Cole
1 On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 12:26, Robert Cole wrote:
2 > On Tue January 06 2004 4:33 am, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
3 > <snip>
4 > > > dev says "ok, that sounds fun." I mean, I got passed back and forth
5 > > > from hardened to general and back a few times and it was all because
6 > > > the devs reviewing my bug(s) didn't understand the packages.
7 > >
8 > > I'm sorry for that. It however can be a sign that the tree is not ready
9 > > for those ebuilds, or that they are in very low demand.
10 >
11 > If someone has gone their entire life using a rock to hammer nails and has
12 > never heard of a hammer before and thus doesn't have the demand for it does
13 > that mean that if they are told about the hammer they won't use it or have a
14 > demand for always having it?
15 >
16 > Sometimes you create demand where one doesn't currently exist by simply
17 > telling people about the hammer.
18
19 Great! Then tell people about your wonderful "hammer" and get some
20 support behind it. Something does not have to be in the official
21 portage tree to gain support. I can guarantee you that if there's
22 momentum behind it, that a developer will either pick it up and add it
23 officially, or possibly a new developer will be added to work with the
24 "hammer" if it proves to be big enough.
25
26 > > > Basically, I just find that the entire ebuild submission process could
27 > > > definitely be streamlined as to take less dev time and be more
28 > > > rewarding for the users actually doing the submissions. Including
29 > > > having user response saying, "hey, so and so just bumped package-x.y.y
30 > > > to package-x.y.z and it builds fine with a renamed and digested
31 > > > ebuild."
32 > >
33 > > I would agree with that. However I don't know how to do it in a good way
34 > > that preserves quality.
35 >
36 > There is but it will take effort and time to setup. Sometimes if not always
37 > time is required to save time in the long run. Kind of like it takes money to
38 > make money. It takes time to save it. Fine grain controls on cvs are required
39 > now. If you want until they are fully needed then there will be a ton of
40 > pressure to get it done yesterday. Lets not REact let's be proactive.
41 >
42 > If there is a way to make cvs ownership based that would be the easiest
43 > administration wise. As in the ebuild(s) I submit I have access to and
44 > nothing else.
45 >
46 > Robert
47 >
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