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From: "vivo75@×××××.com" <vivo75@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:03:17
Message-Id: 4F720EBE.9040704@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook by Ian Stakenvicius
1 Il 27/03/2012 20:53, Ian Stakenvicius ha scritto:
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5 > On 27/03/12 02:47 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
6 >> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev
7 >> <tetromino@g.o>
8 >>> The partitioning scheme is something that the user needs to
9 >>> decide on *before* getting Gentoo up and running. After the user
10 >>> had finished installing the operating system, it's too late to
11 >>> inform him about the advantages of a separate /usr/portage.
12 >> Yes and no (if you have free space, you could easily move
13 >> /usr/portage - some other changes are harder).
14 >>
15 >> However, you could extend this line of argument to raid, lvm, and
16 >> even stuff like the use of systemd or an alternative package
17 >> manager. All of those things are much easier to implement if you
18 >> just start out with them.
19 >>
20 >> I'm all for creating a wiki to talk about some alternative
21 >> options. Perhaps even link to it at the start of the handbook in
22 >> the intro (if you're not in a rush and want to read about more
23 >> advanced configurations, check out ...).
24 >>
25 >> However, I tend to agree that the handbook should be a
26 >> nearly-foolproof no-frills Gentoo installation.
27 >>
28 >
29 > You know, we have "Code Listing 2.1: Filesystem Example" in Section 4,
30 > we could always adjust that to have a /usr/portage partition in it
31 > (take a bit of space away from /home, or something)
32 >
33 > It doesn't recommend/require anything, but when users see it they'll
34 > think about it.
35
36 Boh ... IMHO /usr/portage should be a squashfs filesystem, rsynced from
37 some kind server out there, auto(un)mounted, so it releases resources
38 after use.
39 No needs for any additional partition (which sound kinda lame for a
40 package manager)
41
42 However the devs are right here, handbook should be stripped down, not
43 bloated with details that could be fulfilled later
44
45 Rgds,
46 Francesco