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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:29:46 -0400 |
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Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > - the official package manager of Gentoo would need to be |
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> > > completely "in-house" with respect to control, direction, etc... |
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> > Justify that. What does being in-house have to do with having |
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> > control? Are you claiming that if the Council asks for a feature to |
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> > be added to Portage that it will be added, or that if the Council |
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> > asks for a feature to be added to Paludis that it wouldn't? |
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> with the package manager in house, none of these things are an |
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> issue. we dont have to worry about external developers pulling crap |
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> like closing down a repository and thus denying other developers |
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> access. |
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Instead, you have to worry about Gentoo infra people pulling commit |
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access under the guise of 'security measures' and refusing devrel |
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requests to restore it. |
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But you're not addressing the issue. If the Council requests a new |
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feature in Portage, will it happen? |
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> > By that logic, Linux can't be the official Gentoo kernel and GCC |
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> > can't be the official Gentoo compiler, which is clearly silly. |
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> not the same ... ignoring the fact that there are no real |
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> alternatives to these packages, "Gentoo" is not "Linux" nor is it |
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> "GCC" ... you can use it in conjunction with other kernels and |
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> toolchains |
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and other package managers, as plenty of people will tell you. |
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> it is your fault you wont shut it ... constantly complaining about |
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> the faults of other package mangers is not constructive when you dont |
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> indend to do anything about it except whine the projects into |
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> non-existence |
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Except I've done a lot more about it than that... I've gone off and |
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written something that's pretty close to being a replacement. |
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> > > "emerge" is a brand name for Gentoo and while you can complain |
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> > > about lack of features all you want, dropping portage and |
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> > > installing a different package manager with a completely |
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> > > different interface will surely causes a huge pita for everyone |
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> > In the same way that "dselect" is a brand name for Debian? |
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> you're confusing dselect with apt-get which is a well-known name |
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> aspect of Debian |
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Not at all. dselect used to be a flagship Debian application in the |
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same way that Portage is for Gentoo. |
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Ciaran McCreesh |
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