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From: alexmcwhirter@×××××××.us
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: Jack Morgan <jmorgan@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Sparc Arch status
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 04:41:08
Message-Id: d6196458db5339661d3a05c40a1ce4ab@triadic.us
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Sparc Arch status by Jack Morgan
1 On 2016-08-15 22:54, Jack Morgan wrote:
2 > Following up to my email from a year ago....
3 >
4 >
5 > We do have some people in the community who are interested in sparc. In
6 > fact, we have one kernel developer who would like to get multilib
7 > working.
8 >
9 > In addition, I have two who are interested in helping by being arch
10 > testers (AT).
11 >
12 >
13
14 I have made new profiles for sparc. They support 32bit / 64bit userland
15 and multilib both ways. I have yet to run into any major issues.
16
17 I need to finish up my developer application however.
18
19 >> (2) Installation (Wiki/Releng)
20 >> The documentation is up to date and accurate. Thanks doc team! I
21 >> recently did a fresh install so the current iso and stage3 work well.
22 >> The stage3 need to be updated because they include perl-18 instead of
23 >> perl-20. Otherwise, the install process is stable on my system.
24 >
25 > We really need an updated ISO and stage tarballs.
26
27 I have some from ~February, i'm not opposed to making more.
28
29 >> (a) systemd support
30 >> I tried for several days to get systemd working on sparc. systemd just
31 >> seg faulted on boot up. In fact, I had trouble getting udev to start.
32 >> It
33 >> just produced an error "ignoring: Invalid argument error initializing
34 >> netlink socket" and didn't start. Since udev didn't start, i was not
35 >> able to log in nor ssh (no network interface found). I made the switch
36 >> to eudev and eudev started just fine. I'll file a couple of bugs in a
37 >> week and go from there. I'll work with the systemd team to resolve
38 >> these
39 >> problems.
40 >
41 > No update here and not sure of the status as I need to investigate
42
43 Should be fine with a kernel newer than 3.16, i only tested with a 64bit
44 userland however
45
46 >> (b) gnome/kde desktop support
47 >> I'd like to propose dropping support for gnome/kde desktop if systemd
48 >> isn't supported on sparc. I'm note sure it makes sense long term nor
49 >> have developer resources to continue to keyword it. I have a couple of
50 >> desktop systems so can test easily but running xfce4 atm. I'm open to
51 >> others opinions.
52 >
53 > I'm going to drop support for all desktops except xfce4. If someone
54 > else
55 > wants to help out and support another desktop, they are free to join
56 > the
57 > team and do so.
58
59 No comment here, i have not attempted to build any DE's on sparc.
60
61 >> (c) java support
62 >> The java team said they don't have cycles to support sparc. Support
63 >> would have to come from the sparc team or the community. Unless
64 >> someone
65 >> steps up to help out with java, I'll propose to drop support on sparc.
66 >> Thanks to the java team for helping us know what needs to be done to
67 >> support java or not.
68 >
69 > Support already dropped last year. Thanks java team.
70
71 Debian has java working on sparc64, maybe we should take a look at that?
72
73 > I need to schedule the annual arch team meeting to elect the arch lead.
74 > Current members are are listed below. If you are not actively working
75 > on
76 > sparc, then please update you status.
77 >
78 > Lead(s) none (No lead election date set)
79 >
80 >
81 > Members
82 > Agostino Sarubbo (ago) - Security bugs primarily )
83 > Jeroen Roovers (jer) - ( Porting )
84 > Jack Morgan (jmorgan) - ( Gentoo/SPARC )
85 > Pacho Ramos (Pacho) - ( Gentoo/SPARC )
86 > Mike Frysinger (vapier) - ( Core-only )
87 > Michael Weber (xmw) - ( Gentoo/SPARC )
88 > Mikle Kolyada (Zlogene) - ( Gentoo/SPARC )
89 >
90 >
91 >
92 >> [1]https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Infrastructure/Developer_Machines
93 >
94 > Thanks,
95
96 I'm up for any position you need. After i have the developer status
97 worked out i plan to share quite a bit of code. I've been working
98 silently for too long.