Re: [gentoo-dev] better support for binary packages

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Ben de Groot <yngwin@g.o> wrote:

> lxnay@××××××××××××.org wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Ben de Groot <yngwin@g.o> wrote:
>>> lxnay@××××××××××××.org wrote:
>>>> This is what I am doing in Sabayon, creating a new layer over Portage =>
>>>> Entropy. I'm almost done, just need to work out some documentation and
>>>> apidocs.
>>>> http://gitweb.sabayon.org/?p=entropy.git;a=summary
>>>>
>>> Only problem with entropy is that it doesn't work nice with portage.
>>
>> You are wrong. From entropy 0.95+ all works fine, the only problem
>> previous releases had was with Portage world file being filled
>> incorrectly (emaint --fix world does it, but I am sure you know this).
>> http://gitweb.sabayon.org/?p=entropy.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=commit&s=portage
>
> That's funny, as I just installed Sabayon 4.1 KDE version the other day,
> and did an equo world update. After that I wanted to install quassel,
> but as the version in equo is ancient, I went for emerge. That wanted to
> install qt-core and some other qt packages, which obviously were already
> installed as deps for KDE. The emerge failed with a file collision of
> qt-core (the newly emerged package with the previous binary package).


This is gentoo-dev and you are OFF TOPIC.



Btw, that's weird, because on 4.1 I have:



mars / # qlist -ICv | grep qt-

x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b

x11-libs/qt-4.5.0

x11-libs/qt-assistant-4.5.0

x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0

x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.0

x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.0

x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.5.0

x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.5.0

x11-libs/qt-script-4.5.0

x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0

x11-libs/qt-svg-4.5.0

x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.0

x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.5.0

x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns-4.5.0



and emerging quassel works as expected.



>
> I then turned to the #sabayon irc channel and was told:
>
> <yngwin> ok, so you can't just mix equo and emerge?
> <Azerthoth> yngwin honestly you can, but you better
>  have a real firm grip on how both package systems work,
>  and be willing to brick your system
> <yngwin> well, i know portage, i dont know equo yet
> <Azerthoth> equo is preferred barring that, converting
>  the system to portage only, but mixing the two can be
>  really tricky
> <Azerthoth> not saying you will brick your system, just
>  saying that the odds increase exponentially


This is told to newbies who mess with USE flags. Since binary is a static world.



>
> I would love Sabayon to be Gentoo with binary support, that would have
> worked well on my laptop. But if mixing the package managers is so
> problematic, that's just not worth the trouble for me.


And this made me definitely wonder about this email :)

Next time, please post Sabayon specific stuff on our ML/com. channels.



Regards,



>
> Cheers,
> --
> Ben de Groot
> Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc)
> Gentoo Linux Release Engineering PR liaison
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Fabio Erculiani