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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] */*: Mask Py2 only packages
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 11:36:51
Message-Id: 92e971b2d8a2693cecd86d7035d9ffc82e543d4f.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] */*: Mask Py2 only packages by Thomas Deutschmann
1 On Wed, 2020-06-24 at 11:52 +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
2 >
3 In the beginning of this month you just decided to disband graphics
4 > project. On your own. Please tell me what gave you the authority to just
5 > do that? You didn't even share your plan before executing it on any
6 > mailing list. Something that should be common sense, if not even necessary.
7
8 Surely, that could have been done better (and I don't like that bman
9 didn't contact me) but the repeated claims that it came out of nowhere
10 are plain bs. The bug for discussing what to do [1] was open for a year
11 and 3 months. The only person replying on the bug was maekke, and I
12 think I've talked with some other member on IRC but don't recall whom
13 exactly.
14
15 Now, I'm sorry if you feel like people didn't ask for your opinion.
16 However, if you really cared about graphics project then you should've
17 either joined the team or at least monitored the alias, and replied to
18 the bug. Attacking people because they executed the action nobody
19 objected to is not nice.
20
21 Again, I would like to remind you the golden rule: if you want something
22 to be the way you want it to be, do the work or convince somebody to do
23 it. Making unjustified demands of others, ignoring problems and then
24 complaining is not helping anyone. This applies to everyone, regular
25 developers and Council members alike.
26
27 [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/681938
28
29 >
30 > The whole action was so destructive that you couldn't evenb just undo it
31 > because you also deleted stuff on Wiki.
32
33 He's not the first and not the last person to use wiki wrong. I'd argue
34 the problem is that MW is retarded and it's easy to get it wrong.
35
36 However, instead of using this as an excuse to strengthen your attack
37 you could've just pinged wiki admins to restore the page (hey, we don't
38 monitor everything that happens on the wiki!). This is done now, enjoy.
39
40 > A mask is destructive and requires user interaction. Therefore a mask
41 > isn't something to play with, "Oh, let's test if someone will
42 > complain... it's just a mask, we can just unmask in case...".
43
44 Didn't you just argue against using any information to drive decisions
45 on package removal? Then indeed masks are the only tool we have.
46
47 --
48 Best regards,
49 Michał Górny

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