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Leave to gleps to make long threads ;). |
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So anyways, here's what the deal is so far: |
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Simon Stelling(blubb) starts out by producing the glep. For those of you that |
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have no idea, arch testers were something mainly promoted by the amd64 team. |
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Basically, arch testers are non gentoo devs that do architecture testing and |
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nothing more. Testing ebuilds, helping with bugs, that kind of thing. |
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So basically, Simon wants arch testers to become official devs (with limited |
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restrictions). They've taken the staff quiz already, and he wants them to be |
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officially @gentoo.org-ified and _read only_ access to the portage tree. If |
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they want read/write access they do the usual stuff to become a dev and all |
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is happy. |
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Ciaran McCreesh(ciaranm) then comes in asking for numbers. You know, how many |
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are arch testers, how many went inactive, that sort of thing... |
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Martin Schlemmer(azarah) agrees with Ciaran and states that these numbers |
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should be provided before addressing the glep. Should the numbers be |
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reasonable, a probation period should be created to see how it all works out. |
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Olivier Crete(tester) comes up with some numbers [1] and asks about council |
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voting privileges. |
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Stephen P. Becker(geoman) that this is short of giving them commit access to |
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the tree. He would like arch testers to be somewhat of a probation period |
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from being a full dev. |
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Simon Stelling(blubb) says that that's fine and dandy, but also notes that not |
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all Arch Testers(I'm lazy and will call them AT's now..) want to become devs, |
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and some AT's will still be left. |
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Martin Schlemmer(azarah) comments that all the above appear ok, and asks if |
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cvs has the access control to handle read only for the main gentoo-x86 cvs |
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branch. He's ok with the whole @gentoo.org email assignment though. One |
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ponit he makes is about the arch tests, in order for users to become an amd64 |
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dev, they have to go through the arch test too. He just wants to make sure |
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the arch tests are solid enough. |
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Donnie Berkholz(spyderous) wants clarification on users having to become arch |
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testers in order to become arch devs. |
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Stephen P. Becker(geoman) still thinks that arch testers should become devs, |
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and that if a mips arch tester came along and was good, they'd skip steps and |
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make said person a dev. |
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Homer Parker(hparker) states that this glep was made for the arch testers that |
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don't wish to become devs, because of time restraints or commitment. Homer |
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also notes that AT's have been effectively utilized for amd64 and ppc. |
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Stephen P. Becker(geoman) questions why these arch testers should become devs |
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if they get more access than some other devs get. |
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Homer Parker(hparker) asks what privileges that at's get that most devs don't. |
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Simon Stelling (blubb) posts some facts, which I'll put here because they're |
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short and important: |
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"As of now, amd64 has 20 ATs, 6 of them became devs, 1 is inactive. The rest |
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stayed AT. The "oldest" of the remaining has been AT since February, the |
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youngest since Aug 23, so I think it definitively is." |
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Homer Parker(hparker) states ppc has 3-4 AT's |
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Joseph Jezak(josejx) clarifies ppc has 3 devs, and 1 has become an official |
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dev. |
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Simon Stelling(blubb) clarifies that users should become AT members before |
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becoming a dev, but emphasizes should, as this can be different in some |
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situations. |
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Homer Parker(hparker) mentions that the AT before dev requirement has worked |
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well with amd64, and that if they see an AT member with skills, they will |
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approach them about becomming a dev. |
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So there's your summary of glep 41 so far. |
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If this gets any larger I'll make a part II :p. |
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[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/tests/index.xml?part=1&chap=1 |
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Chris White |