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On 12/22/14 11:11, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: |
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> Am Montag, 22. Dezember 2014, 16:52:22 schrieb Anthony G. Basile: |
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>> Please let's not "tidy up" gentoo. That "old" stuff is useful even if |
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>> its not useful to those who don't see a use for it. Let the maintainers |
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>> decide if they want to put effort into keeping it around. |
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> Well the side effect of this is that arcane and unmaintainable bandworms like |
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> toolchain.eclass are generated, with dozens of case distinctions for packages |
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> that *nearly* noone needs. Yes it's fine to keep old things for a few people, |
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> does it merit slowing everyone else down though? |
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> Do we really need glibc 2.9_p20081201-r3, 2.10.1-r1, 2.11.3, 2.12.1-r3, |
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> 2.12.2, 2.13-r2, 2.14, 2.14.1-r2, 2.14.1-r3, 2.15-r1, 2.15-r2, 2.15-r3, |
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> 2.16.0, 2.17, 2.18-r1, 2.19, 2.19-r1, and 2.20? |
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I can't fully speak to this as I'm not familiar. But are you? |
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> (On a related note, do we really need gcc 2.95.3-r10, 3.3.6-r1, 3.4.6-r2, |
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> 4.0.4, 4.1.2, 4.2.4-r1, 4.3.6-r1, 4.4.7, 4.5.1-r1, 4.5.2, 4.5.3-r2, 4.5.4, |
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> 4.6.0, 4.6.1-r1, 4.6.2, 4.6.3, 4.6.4, 4.7.0, 4.7.1, 4.7.2-r1, 4.7.3-r1, 4.7.4, |
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> 4.8.0, 4.8.1-r1, 4.8.2, 4.8.3, 4.9.0, 4.9.1, and (deep breath) 4.9.2? |
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Between 4.8.3 and 4.8.4 there were 80 bug fixes with a yet unknown |
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number of regressions. Most people that hit these kinds of problems |
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revert to the previous working versions. Add to that the quantum leaps |
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between 4.X and 4.(X+1) with no backwards compat in abis. Plus the fact |
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that some sensitive software usually aimed a special chips need specific |
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versions and the answer is ... yes. |
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What happened here (in part) is the way we're doing multilib is |
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percolating through gentoo and hitting things it doesn't mesh with |
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well. That's fine we have to glue things together correctly. Throwing |
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stuff away when it doesn't mesh is not fine when its something good. |
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> I mean, it's not as if these were the exact same packages as when originally |
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> stabilized, in an archiving sense, since in the meantime random eclass |
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> settings were flipped around.) |
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> +1 for an "archive overlay" |
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Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. |
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Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] |
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E-Mail : blueness@g.o |
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