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From: Luke-Jr <luke7jr@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: Jay Maynard <jmaynard@××××××××.cx>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] XFree86 w/ new license
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 04:13:23
Message-Id: 200402230348.04187.luke7jr@yahoo.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] XFree86 w/ new license by Jay Maynard
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4 On Monday 23 February 2004 03:33 am, Jay Maynard wrote:
5 > On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 03:20:05AM +0000, Luke-Jr wrote:
6 > > The GPL does not prevent commercial sales of software.
7 > Officially, no. Practically, yes: you only get to sell one copy before your
8 > customer turns around and gives it away.
9 Assuming you give them reason to give it away and the people who they give it
10 to don't freely pay anything. Legalizing copying removes the incentive for
11 alot of warez people to copy it in the first place.
12 >
13 > > Proprietary software denies people these rights so the GPL's prevention
14 > > of such downstream licensing is a good thing.
15 > Only if you think that destroying the software industry as we now know it
16 > is a good thing. I beg to differ.
17 The software industry, as far as I'm concerned, only compromises of open
18 source software. Using software for which one does not have the source code
19 is, in addition to other issues which can easilly be dismissed as a matter of
20 opinion, a security hole. (Yes, I am aware compilers can be infected to have
21 undetectable code-worms, but in reality this is impractical to implement)
22 >
23 > > The GPL is non-free in a way which preserves rights
24 > Only if you're not a programmer.
25 Usually the reaction is the opposite. The rights it preserves in general only
26 benefit programmers, not non-programmers. Just because most people don't care
27 to tweak with cars (for legitimate reasons) doesn't mean those who do should
28 be denied the right to, does it?
29 >
30 > > Ideally, the GPL would be unneccesary and only be a problem, but
31 > > unfortunately everything is not ideal and such licensing is needed to
32 > > preserve rights that are not guaranteed by governments.
33 > Governments don't guarantee rights. They only take them away.
34 Governments exists solely for the citizens. Whether true in practice or not,
35 they should not remove rights.
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