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From: djay@g.o
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] PR Project Activity Issues
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:01:25
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In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] PR Project Activity Issues by AllenJB
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7 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:30:34
8 To: <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
9 Subject: [gentoo-dev] PR Project Activity Issues
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12 Hi all,
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14 The Gentoo PR Project currently appears to be having difficulties with
15 keeping up, both with the newsletters and announcements, and I believe
16 this is currently reflecting badly on the project as a whole. These
17 issues are apparently holding back some key changes to the Gentoo
18 website to make it easier to navigate and help the project appear more
19 active than is reflected by the current front page.
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21 If the project needs more hands, and these aren't appearing, then
22 perhaps more should be done to advertise the positions and exactly what
23 they entail (I would suggest announcements on the forums, with specifics
24 on who to talk to for those interested).
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26 The newsletter has been having issues for some time, and this makes me
27 wonder if the amount of effort required is excessive for the value
28 obtained from those efforts. While the GuideXML system Gentoo uses for
29 newsletters, etc is nice, does it require too much time and effort to
30 convert articles to GuideXML and get the newsletters published?
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32 Alternative setups for the newsletter could be to either go text-only or
33 web-only.
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35 Text-only would involved producing a text-only email, which is then
36 copied and pasted onto the website for archiving. This would obviously
37 require minimal formatting work.
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39 My idea for a web-only setup would require more initial work, but I
40 think would make maintenance much easier once set up. The Gentoo
41 Newsletter would become a separate website, not based on GuideXML, but
42 on a standard CMS. Instead of having set release dates (weekly or
43 monthly), articles would just be released as soon as they are produced.
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45 The regular features like bug stats, GLSAs, developer changes could be
46 easily generated automatically (I suspect almost all of those are mostly
47 done automatically anyway - adapting such scripts for a CMS that can
48 publish from RSS feeds should be relatively trivial) and would appear on
49 the website without any intervention.
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51 As above, articles would be published as and when they are ready.
52 Instead of just 1 editor, this website-based setup would be able to have
53 multiple editors with little collaboration required (just to mark
54 submissions as being worked on when an editor picks them up, which
55 should be easily doable using a ticket-based system (bugzilla) or
56 mailing list).
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58 An advantage, as I see it, of the website-based system is that it could
59 be expanded to include features not currently easily possible with the
60 current newsletter - categorized archiving of articles (not just be
61 publish date) and user comments. While I haven't looked, it's probably
62 possible to even find a CMS which includes email notification of new
63 articles as a feature.
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66 AllenJB
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68 PS. This did start out as a submission for a council meeting agenda
69 item, but I couldn't stop writing.
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71 PPS. To preempt the obvious suggestion: I do intend to become a
72 developer, I just don't feel I have the time to commit right now.
73 That'll hopefully change in ~6 months once I've finished uni and have a job.