Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

[Daniel Ostrow]

On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 14:02 -0500, Daniel Ostrow wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > After going through the list, I got the impression there is simply no
> > place where such messages clearly would go.  gentoo-announce sounds as
> > the best option to go for, but its description somehow suggests not.
> > Though, subscribed to gentoo-announce means you get nothing but GLSA
> > announcements and sometimes a new release announcements.
> >
> > So, what list should the user that wants to receive those **important**
> > messages sign up to?
> > I still think that *this* is the reason why people don't seem to know
> > about the important changes, because there is no obvious place where to
> > get them.  It's quite likely that a user that wanted to see the
> > new-style apache message didn't see it because it simply didn't appear
> > on a list the user hoped to see it.  It was in the GWN of 2005-09-12,
> > but I can imagine a user didn't expect it to be there, as there is no
> > description at al for GWN list, and the **important** information will
> > always have to be extracted from the GWN, since each GWN covers multiple
> > items in a few categories which not every user might interest.
> >
> > Send **important** messages separate to a non-discussion mailing list,
> > and I'm sure that many people will be happy to read it -- just like
> > gentoo-announce.
>
> [/snip]
>
> Above and beyond Ciaran's point...
>
> You are correct, there is no clear cut place for them to go...that's how
> this thing got started in the first place. However why force users to
> sign up for something which can't be appropriately filtered (installed
> packages, keywords, use flags, profiles, etc.) when all of them are
> already "signed up" for something that can track and filter, portage.
>
> I wouldn't necessarily bother signing up for an errata list if said list
> was going to provide me with *all* the errata out there. The reason that
> a mailing list works for RedHat is because RHN tracks what packages you
> have installed on your system on *their* server (again something you
> have to sign up for, and worse send them info about your configuration),
> so the filtering is done for you. We will *never* do something like
> this, we have a client side tool that can identify what is installed
> already...why not use it?

Err...sorry for the double post...mail client error.

Oh...and before anyone goes nuts...note I said "why force users to sign
up" to such a list *not* "we will not provide such a list".

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Daniel Ostrow
Gentoo Foundation Board of Trustees
Gentoo/{PPC,PPC64,DevRel}
dostrow@g.o

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