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From: William Hubbs <williamh@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: mjo@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: ideas for fixing OpenRC checkpath issue
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 21:54:47
Message-Id: 20180110215437.GA3156@whubbs1.gaikai.biz
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: ideas for fixing OpenRC checkpath issue by Michael Orlitzky
1 On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 03:25:55PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
2 > On 01/10/2018 01:04 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
3 > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 08:19:24PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
4 > >
5 > >> Ultimately, it's not safe to chown/chmod/setfacl/whatever in a directory
6 > >> that is not writable only by yourself and root.
7 > >
8 > > Let me try to phrase this another way.
9 > >
10 > > If the directory we are in is not owned by us or root and is group or
11 > > world writable, checkpath should not change the ownership or permissions
12 > > of the file passed to it.
13 >
14 > There are also POSIX ACLs, NFSv4 ACLs, and god-knows-what-else to worry
15 > about, but the above is a good start.
16 >
17 >
18 > >> Here's a very tedious proposal for OpenRC: ...
19 > >>
20 > >> 2. Have newpath throw a warning if it's used in a directory that is
21 > >> writable by someone other than root and the OpenRC user. This will
22 > >> prevent people from creating /foo/bar after /foo has already been
23 > >> created with owner "foo:foo". In other words, service script
24 > >> writers will be encouraged to do things in a safe order. Since
25 > >> we're starting over, this might even be made an error.
26 > >
27 > > I'm not really a fan of creating a new helper unless I have to; I would
28 > > rather modify checkpath's behaviour.
29 > >
30 > > The first stage of that modification would be to release a version that
31 > > outputs error messages, then convert the error messages to hard failures
32 > > in a later release.
33 > >
34 > > Is this reasonable? If we go this route, what should checkpath start
35 > > complaining about?
36 >
37 > /*
38 > Disclaimer: I'm not even sure that this difficult proposal will solve
39 > the problem. Moreover there may be legitimate things going on in some
40 > init scripts that I haven't accounted for.
41 > */
42 >
43 > The downside to keeping the name "checkpath" is that it makes it
44 > difficult to identify unfixed scripts. If we change the name, then "grep
45 > -rl checkpath" points them out for you; but if checkpath is modified,
46 > you have to install the package and attempt to start/stop/save/reload it
47 > and look for warnings.
48
49 Good point, this may be a good reason to make a new helper and deprecate
50 checkpath. What I would do is make checkpath throw an error but keep
51 running,. It would have a message, something like:
52
53 "Checkpath is deprecated, please use newpath instead."
54
55 What are we saying newpath should do differently than checkpath if I
56 go this route?
57
58 William

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Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: ideas for fixing OpenRC checkpath issue Michael Orlitzky <mjo@g.o>