* [gentoo-dev] Soliciting input for a non-maintainer update (NMU) GLEP
@ 2013-06-21 18:50 99% Robin H. Johnson
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From: Robin H. Johnson @ 2013-06-21 18:50 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
Hi all,
From what I've read on the list recently, there's a lot of demand for
non-maintainer updates to ebuilds. Esp. with the upcoming Git migration,
I predict there will be a much larger influx of changes from users.
Some developers (eg myself) have a general policy [2] that we send out
to the list occasionally welcome everybody to touch our packages (so
long as they own their breakages). A few packages discouraged touching
due to fragility, but mostly we were a very open society.
Back in the days of "The Old Ones", this was a general practice for all
developers, but somewhere along the line, some developers seem to have
grown territorial of their ebuilds.
Debian has their own NMU process:
http://wiki.debian.org/NonMaintainerUpload
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#nmu
With a long whitelist of devs/teams that welcome it:
http://wiki.debian.org/LowThresholdNmu
So I'd like to hear input on how developers & users (esp
proxy-maintainers) on maybe writing a NMU GLEP.
I'm open to all input, but here's some initial questions I'd like to
hear your answers to:
- How should developers, herds & teams communicate how welcome they are
to NMU changes on their packages?
- to humans?
- to automated scripts?
- where? metadata.xml?
- What sorts of changes (see Debian NMU):
- Are welcome?
- Are prohibited?
- Are somewhere between the two?
- Does this need to be controlled per-package?
- What about upstream-rejected changes?
- How do we encourage responsible ownership of changes that cause
breakage? [1]
1. I've been leading infra for a few years now, and I've got a few
ground rules, maybe we can run with parts of those:
- If you break something, own up ASAP; there will be no punishment, just
help in getting it fixed.
- You're responsible for many people's systems/access/privacy, don't
abuse it.
(Ciaranm: since you were talking about lack of honesty of corporate
cultures in response to my previous mail, here's your chance again).
2. This isn't entirely selfless, I want to have to tell people less that
they can go and touch most of my packages WITHOUT asking me or waiting
for me to reply to a bug.
--
Robin Hugh Johnson
Gentoo Linux: Developer, Trustee & Infrastructure Lead
E-Mail : robbat2@gentoo.org
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