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On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 23:16:41 +0100 |
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Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:57:31 +0100 |
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> Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o> wrote: |
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> > On 02/16/2016 08:33 PM, Michał Górny wrote: |
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> > > This all is going into some bickering nonsense and noise made by |
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> > > systemd haters just to feed their troll, FUD and whatever else |
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> > > they made around here. |
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> > You call it hate, I call it having a choice. |
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> You have a choice. This is trying to force your choice on everyone |
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> else just because you hate the other option and don't want anybody to |
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> be using it. |
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NOT EVERYONE, just make it the non-systemd default, htere is still |
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choice to change to to whatever... |
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> > > Because certainly |
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> > > project that is created plainly for political reasons is better. |
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> > > Because it will certainly be technically better if people have to |
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> > > focus on copying regular udev maintainers and reworking their |
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> > > changes to keep them working on forked codebase. |
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> > > And after all, as someone said, this will give eudev proper |
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> > > testing. |
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> > (1) It's already used by lots of people |
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> > (2) 'proper' testing? As opposed to be the default in more than a |
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> > dozen distros that have usecases you and I rarely think of? |
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> Are you really serious with those fringe distros? How many of them |
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> have a dozen users that do not happen to be developers of the distro? |
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> How many of them are actually used in production? How many of them |
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> have diverse enough userbase to prove that eudev works in different |
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> environments? |
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Now you are starting to spout incomplete truths from being riled up, |
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not thinking things through. |
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Since you consider them to be just a dozen or so... |
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In the 8 months where I am working now, they use eudev for all their |
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installs. This includes more than 50 different server profiles and |
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resulting images. Those are multiplied out into multiple instances in |
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each rack and server clusters distributed in many places around the |
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world. |
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So a real world example puts it over a 1000 units (guesstimate) in daily |
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production. Plus several hundred more on the development and |
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testing clusters. Plus several hundred (minimum) workstation and |
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developer vms. |
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In that 8 months in the release engineering team, I've not seen one |
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email or bug report that has been due to a problem with eudev. If |
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there were I did not see it pass thru the group communications channels. |
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So, there are lots more eudev users out there than the few dozen you |
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seem to intimate to. |
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Can we please put an end to this thread!!!!! ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!!! |
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Brian Dolbec <dolsen> |