Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: "Victor R. Prada" <vprada@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Installer (2) [LARGE]
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 13:34:31
Message-Id: 3CFBB725.4090603@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Installer (2) [LARGE] by "Jeffrey D. Kowing"
1 Jeffrey D. Kowing wrote:
2
3 Hello
4
5 Part of the job that we are making with the Anaconda installer is modify
6 thosw weird path used by RedHat and generate config files in the normal
7 /etc (or in anycase the /etc/config-files needed by gentoo)
8
9 Besides this, another work that we are making in Corvus is a version of
10 webmin for Gentoo Linux.
11
12 Thanks
13 Víctor Prada
14
15 >Grant Goodyear writes:
16 > > I agree. In fact, I like the idea of having the manual install,
17 > > the anaconda gui, and a cli openbsd-like installer (that a couple
18 > > of people seem to be working upon) all available. First and
19 > > foremost, Gentoo Linux is about flexibility for the _users_!
20 >
21 >One danger about auto-installers and auto-configurators is that they
22 >often add complexity to the system to make it simpler for the
23 >auto-tools but more difficult for system administrators trying to
24 >figure out what was done "behind the scenes." Sometimes the
25 >configurators create their own special files that then override or
26 >recreate the standard /etc files. This makes it difficult for those
27 >of us who just like to go straight to the /etc files and make the
28 >change. Also I've often followed scripts around for hours in RedHat
29 >trying to figure out why my system is doing something I did not tell
30 >it to do. The scripts are often quite complex because they try to be
31 >so smart.
32 >
33 >I do not mean to discourage those who are building the auto tools,
34 >just hopefully something to keep in mind. As a side note, I
35 >understand that configuration tools like webmin are pretty good about
36 >simply being a nice front-end for working with the standard /etc files
37 >without, for example, creating mysterious "secret" webmin
38 >configuration files that override your own changes.
39 >
40 >My two or maybe just one cents worth. All gentoo developers, thanks
41 >for you excellent work!
42 >
43 >
44 >
45
46
47 --
48 Lic. Víctor Prada
49 Lider Técnico Latinux-Gentoo
50 Corvus Latinoamérica c.a.
51 Caracas - Venezuela