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From: William Hubbs <williamh@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 22:26:03
Message-Id: 20131208222552.GA22567@linux1
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up by "Rick \\\"Zero_Chaos\\\" Farina"
1 On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 12:52:08AM -0500, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
2 > 1.) If we are going to stuff this into @system then we probably want a
3 > USE=nonet flag to allow users to not pull anything in if they really
4 > don't want it.
6 We don't have to put this in @system at all. We could just have a
7 virtual/network-manager, like we have virtual/cron, virtual/logger,
8 virtual/mta, etc. None of these are installed by default; you have to
9 choose one as part of your installation process. The more I read this
10 thread, the more I agree with this approach; let the user make the
11 choice as part of the installation process.
13 > Just as a side note, after reading the thread up through this point, I'm
14 > terrified of the individuals who wish to remove networking support from
15 > stage3 entirely. If anyone wants to push that idea then that needs to
16 > be addressed by the council. Period. Such a major change is going to
17 > cause a holy war, and myself and others will actively revert any change
18 > which removes net from stage3 under the guise of "critical breakage"
19 > unless there is council direction that says we are no longer including
20 > net support in the stage3s.
22 I am in agreement with Rich and Peter. This isn't a matter of breaking
23 the stages; it is a matter of us getting out of the way and letting the
24 users pick the network stack they want. We do this for the kernel, boot
25 loader, etc, so I don't understand why you feel we need council
26 direction to make a similar change for the network manager.
28 William


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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up "Rick \\\"Zero_Chaos\\\" Farina" <zerochaos@g.o>