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On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 14:34:20 +0200 |
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Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o> wrote: |
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> On 08/28/2016 08:30 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: |
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> > On 08/24/2016 09:42 AM, Zac Medico wrote: |
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> >> On 08/24/2016 09:33 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: |
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> >>> * no benefit put forth so far, other than that it's the same file that |
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> >>> systemd uses, which is true but not beneficial as far as I can tell |
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> >> It's a de facto standard. Being different for the sake of being |
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> >> different is not a virtue in cases like this. |
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> >> |
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> > And doing things because "everyone else does it" is dumb, because it |
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> > precludes our ability to choose and makes us subject to the decisions |
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> > made outside of our distribution. Of course, as a distro we're subject |
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> > to outside decisions often, but what's the point of being a distro if |
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> > you're doing things the same way everyone else does? |
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> At this point I feel the need to point at /etc/mtab and how it doesn't |
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> work anymore. Or rather: |
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> In the old days it did *not* carry all mountpoints, so you could hide |
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> things like /dev and /run so that "umount -a" would not screw you sideways. |
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> Then tools forgot to properly update mtab because hurr why u no symlink |
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> to /proc/mounts (oh wait, /proc/self/mounts ) |
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> So everyone migrated to /etc/mtab as a symlink (even OpenRC, because |
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> everyone does it) |
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> ... and now if you still instincively use umount -a you unmount /run and |
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> other bits, breaking lots of stuff (can't shutdown if OpenRC strongly |
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> considers not having booted!) |
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> That's why some of us are very resistant to change. |
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Which could be pretty much summarized as 'I'm unhappy because I was |
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abusing the existing system to make "umount -a" not do what it was |
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supposed to do, and I'm unhappy because now it started to work |
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correctly'. |
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-- |
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Best regards, |
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Michał Górny |
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<http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/> |