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Michał Górny posted on Tue, 16 Feb 2016 23:16:41 +0100 as excerpted: |
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> On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:57:31 +0100 Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o> |
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>> On 02/16/2016 08:33 PM, Michał Górny wrote: |
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>> > This all is going into some bickering nonsense and noise made by |
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>> > systemd haters just to feed their troll, FUD and whatever else they |
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>> > made around here. |
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>> You call it hate, I call it having a choice. |
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> You have a choice. This is trying to force your choice on everyone else |
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> just because you hate the other option and don't want anybody to be |
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> using it. |
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Who's forcing who's choice? It's a virtual default, where virtuals are |
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/designed/ to allow choice. |
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And as a systemd user myself, the only one I see trying to force a |
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particular choice is systemd and its devs, which as they've made very |
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clear, would prefer to be the only possibility on Linux, no choice |
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available but to switch to some other non-Linux (or at least non-Gnu/ |
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Linux) platform. |
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Meanwhile, systemd users already don't have a choice and thus aren't |
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affected by the virtual default except at installation, and switching |
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from udev or eudev to systemd, six of one, a half dozen of the other. |
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So what's the problem if non-systemd users decide to set a designed-to-be- |
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stand-alone package as the default device-manager, instead of an |
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explicitly intended to be systemd-only package as a device-manager, using |
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it apart from systemd in a way not intended and actively discouraged by |
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its developers. For non-systemd users, that would seem to be only |
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logical, and systemd users have had that choice taken from them by |
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systemd and thus don't have a choice to make, so what's the problem? |
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Again, that's as a systemd user myself. You can't, at least not |
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correctly, claim systemd hate here. I'm simply a realist, using what |
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seems to me to be the best tool for the job, which happens to be systemd |
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currently, but I would sure like to keep the choice around as insurance |
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against a dramatic turn for the worse, as unfortunately, I've seen happen |
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too many times in my computer experience, Linux and otherwise. (No need |
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to enumerate details here.) |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |
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