Re: [gentoo-dev] apache2 default for 2006.0

[Chris Gianelloni]

On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 23:19 +0000, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 09:16 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > I'd like to add the apache2 USE flag to 2006.0's profile.  This would
> > not resolve bug #95140, but would keep users from hitting it by default.
> > With apache being such a popular package, having it fail from a default
> > stage3 installation reflects poorly on us all.  If I haven't heard any
> > good objections by November 30th, I'll make the change.  This will *not*
> > be retroactive to any previous release profiles.
>
> I must be missing something.  How is adding the apache2 USE flag the
> right solution to this problem with users trying to install apache v1?

*sigh*

"This would not resolve bug #95140, but would keep users from hitting it
by default."

Did I ever even imply that this would resolve problems with users trying
to install apache v1?  Di I ever say that this was a solution for them
in any way?  Did I not also mention that this would *not* be
retroactive?

Here's the deal.  We have a new user that installs Gentoo.  After
installing Gentoo, he tries to "emerge nagios" and it dies on building
apache over a bug that has been known for some time and still isn't
resolved.  How exactly does that make us look?  How exactly does that
make Release Engineering look when a "default install" cannot even
install apache properly?  APACHE!!!  Whether we are responsible for
apache or not, we *are* responsible for the release.  Having things
completely broken in the default install is *not* acceptable.  The bug
was reported in June and while there has been some action in the bug, no
fix has been issued.  Again, this is *not* acceptable.  Now, because of
this, it is my determination that we have a serious problem that *will*
affect the 2006.0 release, and I am trying to do something proactive to
prevent it.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
x86 Architecture Team
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux