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On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 5:23 PM David Seifert <soap@g.o> wrote: |
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> And that's exactly the straw-man argument I've been making. You can |
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> always come up with an excuse to delay action on python 2, because |
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> "someone, somewhere, will maintain it". |
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Hey, if somebody actually does want to maintain it I don't see any |
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reason it can't stick around forever. Of course maintain means |
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maintain, not just ignore bugs/etc if it causes grief for other |
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packages and so on, or allow security issues to fester. |
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So far I'm getting the impression that everybody wants somebody else |
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to maintain it, and that is when it becomes an issue. "WE ought to do |
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this" - where "WE" usually means "not me." There is no nebulous |
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"Gentoo" out there who will maintain ebuilds. If they are to stay in |
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the repo then somebody has to actually tend them. |
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If somebody wants to keep around 2.7 for a long time IMO the most |
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straightforward thing to do is announce a desire to do it with a plan. |
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I really doubt that anybody is likely to interfere, and if they do it |
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can always be escalated to Council. But, again, it has to be done |
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right and not cause issues for other packages (at least at the start |
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that shouldn't be a huge problem). |
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Personally I've always admired the Wikipedia policy: |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BOLD |
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If you want to see a change, go about it in a positive way. If such a |
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change bothers you, assume good faith, but point out the issues. |
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Don't over-react in either direction. This is how 99% of everything |
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positive that has ever happened in Gentoo has come about. Most of our |
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improvements are the result of "unsanctioned crusades." That doesn't |
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mean that you should go around breaking systems left and right, but in |
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this case we're just talking about a mask, or announcing an intent to |
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do a project. |
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But, such a thing will certainly involve work. IMO it is work for |
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diminishing returns. If it is an itch that bothers you, though, you |
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can always scratch it... |
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Rich |