Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Chris Reffett <creffett@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] minimalistic emerge
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:58:34
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] minimalistic emerge by Chris Reffett
1 On August 9, 2014 11:46:54 AM EDT, Chris Reffett <creffett@g.o> wrote:
2 >On August 9, 2014 10:56:49 AM EDT, Igor <lanthruster@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >[snip]
4 >>Just the main blockers are:
5 >>
6 >>- Somebody has to implement this technology
7 >>- That requires time and effort
8 >>- People have to be convinced of its value
9 >>- Integration must happen at some level somehow somewhere in the
10 >>portage toolchain(s)
11 >>- People must opt in to this technology in order for the reports to
12 >>happen
13 >>- And only then can this start to deliver meaningful results.
14 >>
15 >>
16 >>
17 >>IMHO seriously, it could be done if ONLY portage dev team would
18 >>implement
19 >>an interface CAPABLE for HTTP reporting. Once the interface is there
20 >>but turned off
21 >>by default - server side statistics are feasible. Personally I don't
22 >>see any future of
23 >>this system unless it's coded in portage. Today - portage support
24 >>without server side
25 >>- tomorrow - server side.
26 >
27 >Then write it. Portage's source is available to anyone. I remember that
28 >you were on this list earlier this year pushing for "Portage QOS" or
29 >something. Keep in mind what a significant number of people told you
30 >then: first, if you want to make some change, just do it and show us
31 >what you have, rather than asking for votes and permission and changes.
32 >Second, repeatedly saying "we should have (some feature)" doesn't work
33 >if the people who would do the work (the portage team) don't see value
34 >in it. From the general response on the list, I would say this is the
35 >case. This means that if you want the feature, write it and come back
36 >with an implementation, since complaining about it is getting you
37 >nowhere.
38 >
39 >Chris Reffett
40 Apologies for multiple emails getting sent, on a mobile connection here and it reported a failure to send. My bad.
42 Chris Reffett
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44 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.