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From: Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new "qt" category
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:13:40
Message-Id: CAG2jQ8gZuUxP9cCEKgyg4BBdjurq+m9MGSq-vFy-b-tkHK_ZMA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new "qt" category by Mike Frysinger
1 On 18 January 2013 04:24, Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o> wrote:
2 > On Thursday 17 January 2013 14:44:14 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
3 >> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:35:12 -0500 James Cloos wrote:
4 >> > >>>>> "CM" == Ciaran McCreesh writes:
5 >> > CM> That's what's known as "doing it wrong". You should be querying
6 >> > CM> your package mangler for a list of categories, not doing an 'ls'.
7 >> >
8 >> > ls(1) isn't relevant. find(1) is. grep(1) is. There are others.
9 >> >
10 >> > Using the 'package managers' isn't very helpful. They generally do
11 >> > everything poorly. And usually **s*l*o*w*l*y**, if they compile at
12 >> > all.
13 >>
14 >> On the other hand, they do things correctly, which your approach
15 >> doesn't.
16 >>
17 >> > I can't even remember every time I've needed to use a regex, glob or
18 >> > other pattern match where the fact that the real categories had a dash
19 >> > made things easier and faster.
20 >>
21 >> But wrong. If you want wrong answers quickly, cat /dev/urandom.
22 >
23 > and breaking people for no good reason is just that -- not a good reason.
24 >
25 > is code that makes this assumption kind of crappy ? yes. is this new
26 > proposal a compelling use case for breaking that (pretty common) assumption ?
27 > no. there's no real technical overhead to have new qt categories follow the
28 > existing practice.
29 > -mike
30
31 I also like the current style for categories (foo-bar) and I also like
32 the "qt-framework" or "qt-libs" proposals but now that I think about
33 it again, I see no urgent reason to move away from x11-libs. I also
34 dislike the idea to drop the qt-* prefix from the Qt modules.
35
36 --
37 Regards,
38 Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2