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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 13:00:36
Message-Id: 20140726140021.43aef517@googlemail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps by Martin Vaeth
1 On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 12:54:08 +0000 (UTC)
2 Martin Vaeth <martin@×××××.de> wrote:
3 > Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com> wrote:
4 > > Jeroen Roovers <jer@g.o> wrote:
5 > >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:06:07 +0200
6 > >> Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o> wrote:
7 > >> > Maybe this could be solved by having two kinds of revisions:
8 > >> > - One would rebuild all as usually (for example, -r1...)
9 > >> > - The other one would only regenerate VDB and wouldn't change the
10 > >> > installed files (for example, -r1.1)
11 > >> Or the package manager looks at changed in *DEPEND between the repo
12 > >> and vdb and resolves those.
13 > >
14 > > ...assuming that the ebuild hasn't been removed, and that it can be
15 > > associated correctly when overlays are involved, and that the change
16 > > wasn't a change where a saved pkg_prerm uses the old dependency, not
17 > > the new one, or all the other ways this breaks.
18 > >
19 > > You need to think your cunning plan the whole way through.
20 >
21 > It works, since it is completely equivalent to a revbump,
22 > only that the unnecesary recompilation is avoided:
23 > All of your problems exist (or don't exist) for usual revbumps
24 > as well.
25
26 At this point, I think it would be most helpful towards us reaching a
27 conclusion if you agreed to refrain from commenting further until
28 you've understood the problem at hand.
29
30 You see, the rest of us are using "broken" to mean "broken" in a
31 technical sense, based upon our understanding of how ebuilds, the VDB
32 and metadata work. You seem to be using it to mean "does something you
33 superficially or ideologically don't like".
34
35 This is a technical discussion, and you need to read up on how things
36 work before you can make a meaningful contribution.
37
38 --
39 Ciaran McCreesh

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