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On 14/05/16 12:35, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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> On Sat, 14 May 2016 11:55:42 +0200 |
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>> Am Freitag, 13. Mai 2016, 10:52:09 schrieb Ian Delaney: |
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>>> On Sat, 7 May 2016 23:25:58 +0200 |
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>>>> Do you seriously expect this code to work? How about testing? Or |
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>>>> reading diffs before committing? |
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>>> Do you seriously expect us to sit and absorb this form of pious |
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>>> put down? From one who knows far better who is entitled to speak |
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>>> down to colleagues as is completely lacking a cerebral cortex? |
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>>> Those times are drawing to an end. Did anyone ever teach you to |
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>>> treat folk in such manner and expect them to respect it? I don't |
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>>> think so Not over my dead cvs perhaps |
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>> Well, we still do need some commit quality, you know... |
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> Why? Gentoo is about the community. Requiring a basic standard of commit |
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> quality a) reduces the number of community members who are able to |
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> contribute, 2) leads to fewer forums posts discussing how to fix |
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> problems, iii) hurts Gentoo's DistroWatch statistics by reducing the |
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> volume of commits, and fourthly, discriminates unfairly against |
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> competency-challenged developers by imposing subjective interpretations |
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> of the value of source code from a position of unearned authority. This |
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> is against the code of conduct, and is bad for the community! |
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In defense of Gentoo at large .. the entry-level to contribute is really |
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quite low .. and all the documentation for gentoo 'standards' is widely |
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documented in both the Devmanual (under revision currently) and the |
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Package Manager Spec. Not only this, but there are active projects |
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within gentoo to welcome, nurture and develop devs and contributors |
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alike so that there is a sustainable level of man-power available to |
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keep up with the demands of users and pace of code development. Ok, it |
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can be off-putting to those looking in from the outside, but really I |
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think it benefits more than it costs. |
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I agree broadly with the ethos of the QA team, gentoo tends to focus on |
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quality over quantity where commits are concerned. It's better to retain |
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a stable, reliable set of packages, with additional untested/unstable |
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packages available via overlays, rather than a massive, unwieldy number |
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of packages in a broadly unknown state. As it is, there is a deficit of |
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active people maintaining the less-widely used packages, and also people |
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able to add new packages to the tree, and this means that resources are |
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inevitably spread more thinly. |
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As always there will be a balance, but this thread did start out with |
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some tit-for-tat between devs, totally unnecessary either in private or |
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public. So, ditch that bike-shed, and get on with fixing bugs, closing |
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issues, adding, updating and deprecating packages, folks :]. Thank you. |