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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>
To: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:10:32
Message-Id: 20120918230619.58c30ef9@googlemail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal by "Michał Górny"
1 On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 00:01:21 +0200
2 Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
3 > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:37:19 +0100
4 > Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com> wrote:
5 > > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:34:29 +0200
6 > > Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
7 > > > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:08:43 +0100
8 > > > Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com> wrote:
9 > > > > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:06:06 +0200
10 > > > > Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
11 > > > > > But didn't we already point out that we can't have them in
12 > > > > > RDEPEND since they introduce conflicts?
13 > > > >
14 > > > > You are missing a basic and important part of how dependency
15 > > > > resolution works: currently, cycles consisting purely of
16 > > > > RDEPENDs are ignorable.
17 > > >
18 > > > So, what do we lose? If PDEP comes 'ASAP' officially, I believe
19 > > > that we actually gain RDEPs which can be actually trusted.
20 > >
21 > > "ASAP" is a weaker guarantee that RDEPENDs currently have --
22 > > RDEPENDs currently have the weakest guarantee necessary to ensure
23 > > that they can be trusted. It's also a useless guarantee, since
24 > > "ASAP" can be arbitrarily late.
25 >
26 > And can't RDEPENDs be arbitrarily late if there is a cycle?
27
28 No. RDEPENDs have to be available when a package is used to satisfy a
29 dependency. That's the difference between an RDEPEND and a PDEPEND.
30
31 --
32 Ciaran McCreesh

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