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211103 John Helmert III wrote: |
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> An "upgrade path" to me sounds like not just a world update, |
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> but also includes other stuff |
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> that might be necessary to get a system fully updated, |
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> like temporarily setting PYTHON_TARGETS to upgrade a package. |
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> A system without an upgrade path would seem to be a system |
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> where there is no way to upgrade it without reinstalling, |
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> which you seem to be asserting is the case for this system. |
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The Council resolution doesn't seem to have been well-thought-out : |
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why "1 year" & however could anyone measure that ? |
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what counts as an upgrade path ? -- problem-free or possible with some work ? |
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The basic problem is that Portage isn't capable of resolving all conflicts. |
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In order to do that, a great deal more programing work would be necessary, |
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which the hard-working volunteer developers are unlikely to have time for. |
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That means that users must put in a bit of their own time |
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& use some good sense based on experience to find a path for themselves. |
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People who can't do that shouldn't try using Gentoo. |
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I've been using Gentoo on all my machines for > 18 yr now |
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& have never tried to do 'emerge world' without '-pv', |
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and I've almost always been able to find my way thro' fairly quickly. |
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I have updated year-old systems occasionally with success. |
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You have to make a list of the pkgs which need updating |
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-- either by 'emerge -pv world' or via 'eix-sync' output -- , |
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then work thro' the list updating a few pkgs at a time, |
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starting of course with the most fundamental, eg system pkgs. |
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That way, problems are usually easily identified |
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& often simply disappear when you put them aside & emerge further pkgs. |
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There are some regular blockages which require unmerging a set of pkgs |
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-- eg notoriously the Qt pkgs -- , then remerging all of them together. |
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Some problem pkgs can simply be left as they are & everything still works. |
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If you expect Portage to do all the work for you in the background, |
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it isn't going to succeeed. |
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HTH |
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