Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

[William Hubbs]

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:03:42PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El jue, 21-04-2011 a las 14:30 -0500, William Hubbs escribió:
> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:20:32PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > > El mié, 20-04-2011 a las 22:02 +0400, Peter Volkov escribió:
> > > > В Срд, 20/04/2011 в 12:24 -0500, William Hubbs пишет:
> > > > > The author of the bug feels that the way to fix this is for us to put a
> > > > > check in openrc that makes it refuse to run services if it was not used
> > > > > in the boot process.
> > > >
> > > > This is good idea to have in any case since I remember my system went
> > > > crazy after I've tried to start some service inside chroot.
> > > >
> > > > > This may work; however, I do not feel that it addresses the root cause
> > > > > of the bug. I feel that the root cause is packages unconditionally
> > > > > installing udev rules which assume everyone uses openrc.
> > > >
> > > > I'd voted to have both implemented.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I would vote for the first one, I still don't like "openrc" USE flag
> > > approach much because:
> > > 1. Would need to rebuild some packages when switching between init
> > > systems.
> >
> > I don't think you can get away from this, no matter how you approach
> > it. The other approach I thought of is to include the udev pieces
> > directly in openrc and make it possible to build openrc with or without
> > udev integration. That will still mean you have to rebuild openrc though
> > if you want udev support.
> >
>
> With mgorny's approach looks like recompiling wouldn't be needed :-/

His approach doesn't stop udev from attempting to run the services; it
just makes openrc print an error message and abort each service we try
to run.

With the integration into udev that we have right now, some of our udev
rules expect openrc to be usable.

William