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On Sat, 31 May 2008 00:47:44 +0300 |
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Mart Raudsepp <leio@g.o> wrote: |
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> > Paludis is fine with as-needed. But hey, don't let reality get in |
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> > the way of your pathetic attempts at turning everything into Paludis |
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> > bashing. |
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> It happens to be the only package that I know of that couldn't be |
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> fixed to work with --as-needed (fix for others being to actually |
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> state linking with a library whose symbols are directly used). I have |
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> not heard of anything else. |
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Except that Paludis is fine with --as-needed. |
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> That doesn't mean Gentoo progress, in maintainability of a running |
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> system through the ease of ABI breaks meaning magnitudes of less |
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> recompilations, should be inhibited. |
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as-needed isn't the right way to do this. |
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> > And twenty years ago C++ had to work around linkers that only |
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> > supported eight character symbol names. Reality moves forward, |
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> > except in situations like these where people try to rice it |
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> > backwards. |
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> Maybe you'd like to tell that to the authors of the platforms that |
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> don't support this extreme corner case, but are amongst the platforms |
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> that we do somewhat support in Gentoo? |
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Not really. They'll fix it sooner or later. Probably sooner, once C++0x |
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starts being widely used. |
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> The story that matters here is, that a C++ corner case that does not |
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> work on 0.01% of packages with --as-needed and breaks on non-ELF |
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> platforms, should not cause good things for our users to be shot down. |
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You could say the same thing for -ffast-math... |
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Ciaran McCreesh |
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