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On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 09:22 -0500, Michael Cummings wrote: |
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> Chris Gianelloni wrote: |
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> > Here's the deal. We have a new user that installs Gentoo. After |
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> > installing Gentoo, he tries to "emerge nagios" and it dies on building |
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> > apache over a bug that has been known for some time and still isn't |
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> > resolved. How exactly does that make us look? How exactly does that |
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> > make Release Engineering look when a "default install" cannot even |
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> > install apache properly? APACHE!!! Whether we are responsible for |
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> > apache or not, we *are* responsible for the release. Having things |
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> > completely broken in the default install is *not* acceptable. The bug |
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> > was reported in June and while there has been some action in the bug, no |
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> > fix has been issued. Again, this is *not* acceptable. Now, because of |
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> > this, it is my determination that we have a serious problem that *will* |
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> > affect the 2006.0 release, and I am trying to do something proactive to |
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> > prevent it. |
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> > |
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> Case in point: I built a fresh, iso downloaded this weekend from w.g.o, |
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> and i failed to bring portage up to date before installing the stable |
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> apache2 - and what i got was broken because it was lacking the enewuser |
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> for apache (it built, installed, etc. - just couldn't run without either |
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> manually adding the user or syncing the dead-end box). And this was on a |
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> 100% stable box using the iso at |
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> http://bouncer.gentoo.org/?product=gentoo-2005.1-install-minimum&os=x86 |
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> (link off the where page). |
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Thanks for the reminder... bug #114020... :P |
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Anyway, what I am suggesting would not have resolved this issue for you. |
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> OK, so I'm not bright for not syncing before starting emerging - but i |
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> can't imagine a new to gentoo user, not quite up with the "portage |
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> changes by the nanosecond" would think to sync after building from a livecd. |
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A new user would likely be reading the Handbook, which has the user |
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perform an emerge --sync (except for GRP). |
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Chris Gianelloni |
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Release Engineering - Strategic Lead |
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x86 Architecture Team |
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Games - Developer |
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Gentoo Linux |
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