Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

[Michał Górny]

W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 14∶31 -0500, użytkownik Alec Warner
napisał:
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
>
> > W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 09∶11 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner
> > napisał:
> > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
> > > > W dniu wto, 09.01.2018 o godzinie 17∶08 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner
> > > > napisał:
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Andreas K. Huettel <
> >
> > dilfridge@g.o> wrote:
> > > > > > During the last Gentoo council meeting, the decision was made to
> >
> > implement
> > > > > > changes to the gentoo-dev mailing list [1].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > These changes affect only the gentoo-dev mailing list, and will
> >
> > come into
> > > > > > effect on 23 January 2018.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Subscribing to the list and receiving list mail remains as it is
> >
> > now.
> > > > > > * Posting to the list will only be possible to Gentoo developers
> >
> > and
> > > > > >   whitelisted additional participants.
> > > > > > * Whitelisting requires that one developer vouches for you. We
> >
> > intend this
> > > > > >   to be as unbureaucratic as possible.
> > > > > > * Obviously, repeated off-topic posting as well as behaviour
> >
> > against the
> > > > > >   Code of Conduct [2] will lead to revocation of the posting
> >
> > permission.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If, as a non-developer, you want to participate in a discussion on
> > > > > > gentoo-dev,
> > > > > > - either reply directly to the author of a list mail and ask
> >
> > him/her to
> > > > > > forward your message,
> > > > > > - or ask any Gentoo developer of your choice to get you
> >
> > whitelisted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If, as a developer, you want to have someone whitelisted, please
> >
> > comment on
> > > > > > bug 644070 [3]. Similar to Bugzilla editbugs permission, if you
> >
> > are vouching
> > > > > > for a contributor you are expected to keep an eye on their
> >
> > activity.
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems like the obvious way this fails is some Gentoo developer
> >
> > acks
> > > > > one of the problem people. I don't think that's particularly
> >
> > unlikely.
> > > > > Then what do we do?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Then it becomes comrel business.
> > >
> > > If that was an effective solution, wouldn't the problem already be
> >
> > solved?
> >
> > One of the problems mentioned before was that a person could easily
> > evade the ban via subscribing from another e-mail address. In this case
> > it's no longer possible, as he would need to obtain the vouching for his
> > new e-mail address, and for that he would first have to have something
> > positive to post.
> >
> > Of course this relies on developers not vouching for new people out of
> > the blue but expecting them to have something to contribute first.
> >
>
> This sounds like an amazing fundraising opportunity.
>
> https://www.gentoo.org/donate/
>
> Get membership posting privs.
>

I should point out that even as a joke this is highly inappropriate.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny