Re: [gentoo-dev] samba (and related) packages are in desperate need of help

[Lars Wendler]

Hey all,

seems like I need to correct one of my previous said statements.
Please see below:

On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 15:24:05 +0200 Lars Wendler wrote:

>Hey community,
>
>for a way too long time Gentoo's samba packages lack the attention they
>would require to keep them top notch and as useful as possible for our
>users.
>
>The reason I started to take minimum care of our samba packages was
>because my former employer used Gentoo on his Linux server (guess
>why? :D) and as there were also samba servers among them I had slight
>interest in Gentoo's samba packages to be at least up to date on
>a security point of view.
>After I started work for my new employer this interest lowered even
>more and all I am doing right now is simple version bumps on all samba
>(and related) packages nobody else seems to take care of.
>The situation in Gentoo became even worse when upstream discontinued
>the 3.6.x series which still is the only samba version in Gentoo that
>is multilib capable.
>Given this fact I decided to unmask samba-4.0 and samba-4.1 series
>although both still suffering from two major problems:
>
>* Until now all samba-4 packages are not multilib ready [1]
>
>* samba-4 packages require heimdal, a kerberos implementation that
>  unfortunately cannot be installed in parallel with mit-krb5 package
>  [2]

This seems to be no longer true. I've added samba-4.2.4-r1 with
"system-mitkrb5" USE flag to portage today.

>So here comes a really seriously meant call for help:
>Gyus, if you _are_ interested in samba then please try to invest time
>and knowledge so we can make Gentoo's samba packages better.
>
>To be honest there are some trip wires that make solutions to the two
>above mentioned problems (and possibly others) a bit difficult:
>
>* samba upstream is extremely uncooperative. Best example is that we
>  still have some automagic dependencies [5] in samba's build system
> and upstream is not very keen on fixing these.

And the upstream reference [6]

>* samba (and related) packages are using waf as build system. One of
>  the most ugliest build systems I ever had the bad luck to be involved
>  with.
>
>* To make samba-4 (and related) packages multilib ready, we might need
>  to make python multilib ready first. I'm not sure this requirement is
>  still necessary - we should ask mgorny about this :)
>
>* We should really get heimdal and mit-krb5 packages in a shape where
>  we can install them in parallel [2]. Using the bundled heimdal from
>  samba is no valid option [3]

See above. Should no longer be a pressing requirement. Of course it
would still be nice to have.

>* Stabilization of samba-4 still needs to go a long road [4]
>
>
>Once again, we need your help so please help. If you are willing to do
>so and have no commit access, well... I have and as long as the
>contributions from any volunteer meet the Gentoo standards I am more
>than happy to commit any improvements as proxy maintainer. If they
>don't meet the standards, I'm quite sure we can work those issues out
>together.
>
>
>Kind regards
>Lars
>
>
>[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/534432
>[2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/490872
>    https://bugs.gentoo.org/542462
>[3] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Why_not_bundle_dependencies
>[4] https://bugs.gentoo.org/489762
>[5] https://bugs.gentoo.org/489748
>    https://bugs.gentoo.org/489770
>
[6]
http://samba-technical.samba.narkive.com/9UGYmeiG/patch-samba-4-0-automagically-depends-on-dmapi-libdm-so

Kind regards
Lars

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Lars Wendler
Gentoo package maintainer
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