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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Removing the distinction between UNCONFIRMED and CONFIRMED bugs
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2022 12:20:53
Message-Id: 6a2ba31fda5ec0a56978a36c6ca2e3f38dbe081f.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Removing the distinction between UNCONFIRMED and CONFIRMED bugs by Florian Schmaus
1 On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 13:10 +0100, Florian Schmaus wrote:
2 > On 03/12/2022 12.34, Michał Górny wrote:
3 > > On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 11:42 +0100, Florian Schmaus wrote:
4 > > > On 03/12/2022 08.09, Michał Górny wrote:
5 > > > > Hi,
6 > > > >
7 > > > > I'd like to propose replacing the current UNCONFIRMED and CONFIRMED bug
8 > > > > states with a simple NEW state. Why?
9 > > > >
10 > > > > 1. Only a handful of developers actually uses these two statuses
11 > > > > in a meaningful way.
12 > > > >
13 > > > > 2. Some users are confused and demotivated by having their bugs stay
14 > > > > UNCONFIRMED for a long time.
15 > > >
16 > > > While I do not strictly oppose that change, I like the UNCONFIRMED /
17 > > > CONFIRMED states.
18 > > >
19 > > > I don't know how 1. is an argument for removing it. Quite the contrary,
20 > > > the statement itself says that the feature is used. Furthermore, it is
21 > > > not my observation that only a handful of developers use it. Most open
22 > > > bugs are in the CONF state [1], so I would conclude that most use the
23 > > > feature. Of course, that depends on your definition of "used in a
24 > > > meaningful way". For me, CONFIRMED was always about someone, usually a
25 > > > -dev, acknowledging that the bug reports a valid issue that needs to be
26 > > > addressed (either by Gentoo or upstream). Is that using it in a
27 > > > meaningful way?
28 > >
29 > > Does that imply that bugs that are UNCONFIRMED are not worth our effort?
30 >
31 > No, not all. Could you elaborate how you derive this implication?
32 >
33 > I had always assumed that UNCONFIRMED means that nobody (as in, no dev)
34 > looked at the issue report and vetted its validity. Nothing more,
35 > nothing less.
36 >
37
38 I'm trying to understand what actual value this has. Unless it's data
39 for the sake of having data.
40
41 --
42 Best regards,
43 Michał Górny

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