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From: Brian Harring <ferringb@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tone in Gentoo
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:39:26
Message-Id: 20100619093720.GJ12490@hrair
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tone in Gentoo by Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
1 On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 09:00:26AM +0000, Duncan wrote:
2 > Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto posted on Sat, 19 Jun 2010 03:20:08 +0000 as
3 > excerpted:
4 >
5 > > you're confusing talk and jokes between developers on a particular
6 > > private room with tone between members of the global community in public
7 > > mediums.
8 >
9 > It's possible that's the case. However, it's also the case that with such
10 > content, whatever consent there may have been between present parties
11 > previously, as soon as one person present asks that it stop and it does
12 > not, it's sexual harassment. Evidently, one person present, regular or
13 > not, asked that it stop, and it didn't, ergo...
14
15 I ask y'all to stop this unproductive line of discussion.
16
17 Via your logic, aparently regardless of the sanity of the request, it
18 must be followed.
19
20 Bluntly, this logic, this conversation, and Sebastian sticking his
21 nose into people joking with eachother in in #-infra is blown
22 seriously out of proportion (for reference I was the one who stated
23 "sorry, but _you're_ the one not finding it funny"). The PC level
24 inplicit in this is farcical enough it belongs in a monty python
25 sketch. Hell, even the exherbo smackdown earlier on ciaran was out
26 of proportion (his points were valid and civil, even if you don't
27 agree with them).
28
29 Simply put, you gauge your tone dependant on your surroundings. You
30 don't go into a funeral chanting Carlin's 7 words you can't say
31 on television, and you do not go into someone's home and tell them
32 what they can/cannot say.
33
34 If you cannot understand this simple fact, then you're going to have
35 many, many ackward social interactions with the rest of humanity.
36
37 Why? Because you're going around telling other people how *you* want
38 them to act, instead of what is *communally* agreed to.
39
40 Tolerance cut's both ways. The people making the noise on this thread
41 seem to be missing the bidirectional nature however.
42
43 Finally, take the thread to -project... it's well past being even
44 remotely technical.
45
46 ~harring

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tone in Gentoo Sebastian Pipping <sping@g.o>