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On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:52:07 -0500 |
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Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o> |
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> > On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 00:34:33 +0000 (UTC) |
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> > Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote: |
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> >> While it pains me to say this, unfortunately it looks like we have |
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> >> another "toxic person" situation to deal with, with all the |
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> >> implications that come with it. Maybe it's time to deal with it. |
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> > Toxic wars have casualties; in one of the sides, or in both of them. |
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> > IOTW; you're already dealing with it, you can only change the |
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> > outcome. |
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> Can you be clear as to what you're recommending? |
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To look at the outcome and shape it for the better, whichever way fits. |
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> Are you suggesting that instead of trying to mediate between people |
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> who don't get a long, it would be better to just pick one or the other |
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> as the winner and boot the other out? |
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"..., or in both of them"; and to be complete, let me add "or neither". |
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> One of the challenges here is that if we were talking about just one |
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> productive person who tended to drive everybody away that would be one |
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> thing. The problem is that we have a lot of productive people who |
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> have different sorts of personality quirks. They range from blowing |
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> up in public, to constant passive-aggression, to just silently doing |
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> their own thing completely ignoring any input whatsoever. I'm sure I |
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> missed a few, like writing excessively-long emails. :) |
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The challenge lies in how far to push and/or hold back people and/or |
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their content; exploring the spectrum between active and passive |
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moderation, as well as the different types of warnings and actions. |
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One or more clear positive messages, followed by an action of 24h, ... |
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> I guess one of the advantages of a model where devs turn into |
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> reviewers instead of authors is that you can prioritize people skills |
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> since their main role isn't to actually write the code so much as to |
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> coordinate things. However, this assumes that people would still |
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> contribute in such a model. |
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It also assumes the model to change attitude. |
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