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On 07/31/2011 04:56 AM, William Hubbs wrote: |
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> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 04:40:33AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: |
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>> On 07/31/2011 03:59 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: |
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>>> On 30-07-2011 22:17, William Hubbs wrote: |
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>>>> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:27:27AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: |
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>>>>> Since running separate /usr without mounting it from initramfs on |
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>>>>> top of / before init is and has been broken with udev for a long |
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>>>>> time now[1][2][3] |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364235 [2] |
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>>>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove#Move_all_to_.2Fusr |
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>>>>> [3] |
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>>>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> |
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>>> Can we warn users about not doing the separate /usr mistake in the handbook? |
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>>>> There are actually two options for us according to upstream. One is |
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>>>> the one you are talking about -- mounting /usr from an initramfs |
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>>>> before / is mounted. The other is to mount local file systems, if |
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>>>> setups are simple enough, before we start udev. I could set this one |
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>>>> up easily enough just by moving localmount to the boot runlevel. |
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>>> |
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>>>> Can we discuss both options? |
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>>> If there's any option that allows the use of a separate /usr partition |
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>>> without an initramfs, then let's explore it. I don't feel like having to |
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>>> use an initramfs just because I want a small / without /usr on it. |
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>> The message is really missing all the context without explanation for |
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>> WHY you want it. |
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> Here is a good argument for supporting this. |
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> http://tldp.org/LDP/lame/LAME/linux-admin-made-easy/install-partitioning.html |
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The documentation seems to lack any arguments, bad or good, for the |
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separate /usr issue. Any chance you could highlight it out? |
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> You can hose your system easier with one big file system with / and |
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> /usr combined than you can with multiple partitions. |
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Too vague. Did you mean to compare filesystem size with the amount of |
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errors and it's capability to recover? To what effect, and same for |
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every filesystem type? Details please. |
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:-/ |
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- Samuli |
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