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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:45:10
Message-Id: CAGfcS_=ZCSrb5YQnSn=-pLG7dBYtMbozXwzqTzeg5CQPY-w5HQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC by Peter Stuge
1 On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Peter Stuge <peter@×××××.se> wrote:
2 > Yes, but if the upstream that is Gnome decides to start depending on
3 > systemd features then that's their decision, and the place to discuss
4 > if it's good or bad (more important, the place to change it!) would
5 > be within the Gnome project.
6
7 More or less, but again my goal was not to start another discussion -
8 just to inform. Anybody inclined to comment on whether this is good
9 or bad should go look at the list archives and see if any of the 400
10 messages in the last month already covered their points.
11
12 >
13 > I guess Gentoo will always continue to offer the best of upstream.
14
15 I don't think Gentoo has to limit itself to what upstream supports (I
16 don't think anybody would look at Prefix and say that this was what
17 any upstream had in mind). However, the bottom line is that to do
18 something exotic takes effort, so nothing will happen unless somebody
19 makes it happen.
20
21 >
22 > OTOH, if upstream goes and make some change that means a regression
23 > for Gentoo users, then they deserve bug report floods from their users! :)
24
25 Perhaps, but don't count on it going anywhere. With Gnome 3 they must
26 already have pretty thick skin. I suspect upstream would say that if
27 you want a smooth desktop experience you shouldn't be running Gentoo.
28 To some degree they probably even have a valid point. Gentoo is about
29 more than a just-works desktop so I think the best we'll be able to
30 offer is a "reasonable" experience. If things get really integrated
31 you might see some Sabayon-like forks favoring particular DEs/etc, and
32 as long as those forks contribute to our main tree I think that is
33 good for all of us.
34
35 Rich

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo vs. upstream Peter Stuge <peter@×××××.se>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC Sylvain Alain <d2racing911@×××××.com>