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Josh Saddler napsal(a): |
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> I completely disagree with your assessment of the in-kernel hda-intel |
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> state. My workstation uses one of those (labelled nVidia MCP 55, for the |
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> curious), and my experiences with in-kernel ALSA have been nothing but |
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> positive with the intel audio, whether compiled or as modules. |
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I could say the same about your assessment of the in-kernel hda-intel |
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drivers, as could many other users... Same for via82xx - never had much |
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luck with the in-kernel drivers, plus upgrading the whole kernel over |
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and over again just to test whether something got fixed is a major PITA. |
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As said, these are two different branches, what works for somebody |
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doesn't need to work for someone else. |
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> For the record, the kernel and alsa team have gone back and forth on |
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> this for a long time -- and it's always been my task to update the ALSA |
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> guide for whichever "wins", or at least that's how it's been lately. The |
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> thing about ALSA upstream not accepting certain bugs -- I'm not sure |
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> Diego ever mentioned any such thing; is this really true? |
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I really don't get these fights, the two things can co-exist quite |
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nicely and users can benefit from this. What's this need to 'deprecate' |
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the external stuff once again about? (And yeah, ALSA upstream doesn't |
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deal with in-kernel drivers bugs.) |
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> At the very least, this should cut down on spurious bug reports on our |
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> own bugzilla. However, it'd be nice from the point of view of the GDP if |
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> the kernel and ALSA maintainers would decide, once and for all, what |
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> should be supported and what shouldn't, whether in-kernel or |
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> alsa-drivers is recommended. Because it's been going back and forth for |
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> years as to which gets priority in the docs. Pick something for the |
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> users to install and stick with it, please. |
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Both should be supported, as explained above. Spurious bugs? Not really |
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sure what you mean. |
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And no, kernel 2.4 is definitely not *the* reason to keep the external |
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alsa drivers supported (Frankly I'd be very happy to see the whole 2.4 |
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kernel branch declared as unsupported on Gentoo - noone's really testing |
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anything against those kernels these days and the bugs are lingering |
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there for ages as noone cares; even the 2.4 kernels we still have in the |
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tree are pretty much unmaintained). |
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Best regards, |
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Jakub Moc |
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mailto:jakub@g.o |
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