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Please never ever reply to me off list. |
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On Friday 28 November 2003 22:57, brett holcomb wrote: |
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> Because I've finally found a distro that works. I've |
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> watched Unix mess up the desktop, been condemmed to use |
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> Windows for years, used Linux and suffered the RPM mess. |
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> I finally found Gentoo which is an almost perfect distro. |
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> It provides a large number of packages, is easy to |
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> install, maintain, and upgrade and allows us choice in |
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> what we want to run. And then people want to Debianize |
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> Gentoo. Yes, they still do - that's not dead by any |
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> means. It shows in some of the comments and in the |
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> attitude of which "immoral licenses" was one I've received |
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> in this thread. It's an attitude that anyone who uses |
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> non-free isn't worth consideration so let a third party |
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> fill in the gaps or they can go elsewhere. Well, we can't. |
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> The free only can always go to Debian - we only can go |
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> back to RPM distros! It appears choice is good as long |
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> it's free-only. |
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While some people may have that attitude it never makes its way into anything |
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that is released with Gentoo. Do you think this sort of debate has never came |
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up before? |
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> I have no problem with adding license handling being |
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> modified so that all of us can build systems as we desire |
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> and that allow us to do our jobs. I do have a problem |
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> with Gentoo being changed so that we who use non-free |
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> software have to make the changes - why should we. If |
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> someone is that hot to have it change let them make the |
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> changes to their make.conf or whatever file. Yes, even |
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> having to do that change may be a small item but the |
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> camel's nose appeared small when he first shoved it under |
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> the tent. I've said more than I should so I'll just |
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> watch and see what happens. |
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Most new Linux users assume that everything associated with Linux is free. The |
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only reason I can see to have a default of "free-only" licenses is to make |
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sure those users are aware of the agreement under which they're using the |
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software. As well as that, many users who use "non-free" software (myself |
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included) are interested in the terms under which they are using it. Your |
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opinion doesn't sound so much like the free vs. non-free; it sounds like |
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those who care about licensing vs. those who don't. |
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The addition of licensing to Gentoo is in no way related to the free vs. |
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non-free debate; only the defaults is. When the defaults are decided it won't |
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be by a vote on free vs. non-free; it will be decided with valid reasoning as |
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in the above. Until there is (at least some) concensus on that reasoning, the |
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decision will not be finalised. |
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Jason |
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