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From: Hilco Wijbenga <hilco.wijbenga@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: have portage be quiet by default
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:02:57
Message-Id: CAE1pOi1A8eqvMVR=T8nLz8fypj9skj6Dzof3ovvfQr_iaF-pEA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: have portage be quiet by default by Dale
1 On 14 November 2011 10:34, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > Zac Medico wrote:
3 >>
4 >> On 11/14/2011 09:38 AM, Dale wrote:
5 >>>
6 >>> As I type:
7 >>>
8 >>> emerge should show build output by default (unless --quiet-build=y) 42%
9 >>>
10 >>> So far that's the winner.  As I posted earlier, people expect things to
11 >>> work like they have always worked.  I say that as a user.
12 >>
13 >> As I've explained in my post to that forum thread [1], you have to
14 >> factor in the "silent majority" that welcomes the change and does not
15 >> express it publicly. A forumor mailing list thread tends to attract a
16 >> "vocal minority", which tends to bias the discussion (or voting results)
17 >> in way that does not give a fair statistical representation of the
18 >> gentoo population as a whole (it excludes the "silent majority"). It's
19 >> part of human nature that those who are displeased with the changed more
20 >> likely to speak up than those who welcome the change.
21 >>
22 >> [1]
23 >>
24 >> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6871718.html?sid=960ebd269384029c21e708d8dfa745ef#6871718
25 >
26 > The same could be said if the poll was going the other way as well.  If the
27 > results are not going to be used or just going to be explained away, then
28 > why have the poll to begin with?   I don't think you started the poll but
29 > just saying. . .
30 >
31 > Again, as a loooooong time user, I expect things to remain like they are
32 > unless that is going to break something or is a must change with no other
33 > option.  That does happen from time to time but this is not one of those
34 > times.  I shouldn't have to go override settings just to keep it like it
35 > was.
36
37 Shouldn't you still be on MS-DOS then? ;-) Insisting that basically
38 nothing should ever change seems rather extreme... And not very
39 realistic?
40
41 > All this said, if my opinion doesn't matter, that's fine.  I changed my
42 > make.conf already.  So now your change doesn't affect me.  It just may
43 > confuse the heck out of others that don't subscribe here and know about the
44 > change.  That is the biggest reason I subscribed here a long time ago.
45 >  Changes pop up that I wasn't expecting and I tend to like to see things
46 > coming even if it is a freight train.  ;-)  This gives me time to undo some
47 > things or at least prepare for them.
48 >
49 > Later.
50 >
51 > Dale
52 >
53 > :-)  :-)
54 >
55 > --
56 > I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how
57 > you interpreted my words!
58 >
59 >
60 >

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