Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Ben de Groot <yngwin@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 03:30:31
Message-Id: CAB9SyzRyJq0GDVGq6rcDWrqnh1VmY477kuVuOi4tzFOUp+56Zw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed by Jeroen Roovers
1 On 13 September 2012 09:43, Jeroen Roovers <jer@g.o> wrote:
2 > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:53:20 +0200
3 > Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 >> > You can un-CC yourself. I don't see why security@ should be doing
6 >> > the legwork.
7 >>
8 >> It shouldn't be so hard to do, they can do it just when they CC
9 >> arches, instead of relaying some random team member to do it himself
10 >> once a useless message is received
11 >
12 > It does become a chore when you have to check a list to match various
13 > CC'd people's preferences and decide whether to un-CC them based on
14 > that, the way they were CC'd (did they do it themselves, were they CC'd
15 > by security, and so on) and perhaps some other factors someone will no
16 > doubt soon propose in this thread.
17 >
18 > Basically you are saying, "why doesn't anyone else do my volunteer work
19 > for me".
20 >
21 >
22 > jer
23 >
24
25 I don't mind getting the odd security bug mail. It's relatively low
26 volume, and I like to know what's happening to packages I maintain.
27
28 What irks me much more is that it can take half an eternity for
29 security bugs to get addressed properly. Especially minor arches can
30 stretch out the stabilization process for months or years. Recently we
31 (Qt team) had to push really hard and "punish" lagging minor arches
32 with hard-masking Qt libs and all reverse dependencies in order to get
33 an ancient version with several open security bugs removed from the
34 tree (because they hadn't keyworded/stabilized newer versions and were
35 unresponsive to our requests).
36
37 I think we should adopt a policy that we set a hard limit of 3 months
38 in which arches can address stabilization requests before we just drop
39 keywords. Even that is in my opinion an awfully long time to leave
40 vulnerable versions in the tree.
41
42 --
43 Cheers,
44
45 Ben | yngwin
46 Gentoo developer
47 Gentoo Qt project lead, Gentoo Wiki admin