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On 8/10/2020 22:08, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 9:55 PM Joshua Kinard <kumba@g.o> wrote: |
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>> On 8/10/2020 11:22, William Hubbs wrote: |
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>>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 12:00:44AM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: |
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>>>> If eudev is not broken, then why your proposed fix? |
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>>> bitrot and bus factor. |
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>> Examples? |
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> The sole maintainer of eudev is going to suddenly disappear before |
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> getting a chance to tell anybody about the horrible security issue |
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> they discovered earlier that day. |
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>> You meant to say "has yet to come true". |
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>> .... |
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>> Elsewise, as long as that door remains open, then future tense is |
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>> the correct tense. |
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> Note that the disappearance of the sole maintainer of eudev has yet to |
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> happen, but we absolutely need to be taking steps today because |
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> everybody knows it will happen. After all, it COULD happen, and so as |
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> long as that door remains open the future tense is the correct tense. |
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> :) |
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I don't disagree completely with your logic, but I *do* disagree that |
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changing the default udev provider to sys-fs/udev is the best option, or the |
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only option. |
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> I find it amusing that everybody is still trembling in fear that |
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> Lennart is going to take their shell scripts away from them in the |
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> middle of the night. But it isn't like anybody needs to touch that |
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> cruft if they don't want to just because they're working on Gentoo, so |
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> whatever rocks your boat. |
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I don't tremble in fear. I am past that stage at this point, and have just |
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accepted the fact that at some point, the Linux I used to know and love will |
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be something I can't work with anymore, and I'll just need to pack my |
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proverbial bags and move on to greener pastures. The day when Linux and |
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systemd become inseparable will happen. But it won't be like going to sleep |
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the night before and waking up in an alien world. The change will be slow |
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and gradual, just like it has been for the past eight-plus years. The |
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question is more, what is my tolerance? At what point do I give up and move |
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on? Haven't found that answer yet, so here I still am, arguing. |
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> Really though I'd just stick with "ain't broke don't fix it" as there |
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> really is no reason to get into paranoid FUD. |
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"Ain't broke don't fix it" doesn't apply here. My read of recent messages |
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on this thread suggest to me the change is going to happen, regardless what |
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a number of us think about it. See last few sentences of the prior |
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paragraph above. |
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Joshua Kinard |
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Gentoo/MIPS |
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kumba@g.o |
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"The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And |
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